theFreshXpress Roundtable

by FreshXpress Staff on April 3, 2009

in Features,Fresh Roundtable

We have a new weekly feature here at FXP: theFreshXpress Roundtable. Each week we’ll bring you 5 Young Black Americans from across the country, ask them 5 questions, and watch the answers fly. Being the PULSE of Young Black America, we figure its a good look to discuss what’s been going on in our world lately. This week we have:

Jennifer Garrett,a 24 year old Executive Recruiter/Business Developer in Atlanta, GA

Gregory Roberson, a 23 year old Law Student in Washington D.C.

Makia Kambon, a 26 year old Special Events Planner in New York City, NY

Eddie Maisonet, a 25 year old Retail Client Manager in Cincinnati, OH by way of Oklahoma

Lovette Ajayi, a 24 year old Marketing Coordinator in Chicago, IL

Check out what our Fresh Roundtable participants discuss, and chime in on your own at the end. Kickin’ knowledge and having fun… its what FXP is all about.

1. Starting May 12, Mike Vick will serve 2 months of house arrest, then he can start trying to get back in the NFL. In the meantime, his attorney has stated that he has a construction job lined up for $10 an hour. Is this best he can do? If he’s not throwing a ball, he has to work for $10 an hour? What does this say about athletes and the type of education they receive?

Jennifer Garrett: Being that I went to a school in which often times athletes are pushed through, and having done a paper or two myself (not for any players at MY school of course), I would say this speaks volumes. Most of these players are still at a 10th grade level. Aside from that, Vick is just not in a good position. Public Opinion of him is in the tank, and it wouldn’t matter if he was a Rhodes Scholar at this point. I still also think that this job they have “lined up” for him is another PR stunt to show his humility and remorse at the situation. I am almost certain they could do better than that. Hell he could work at Gap for more than that. However though, what does need to be talked about it what happens when they retire or get hurt. No one teaches these athletes how to handle their money. Broke comes at you fast.

Gregory Roberson: I don’t think the construction job speaks to the student-athlete education broadly but to Vick specifically.  Anything other than physical labor for him at this point is a liability to any company wishing to hire him. His well documented criminal past and uncertain future make any substantial investment in his career a risky one.  Unfortunately that’s how far the star has fallen.  He only spent two years at Va Tech so his college education is but marginally useful.

Makia Kambon: First, I think he needs a new lawyer because he never should have gone to jail in the first place! And if you free-mike-vickneeded more support for that statement, I know high school students that make more than 10.00/ hr. As an NFL player I KNOW he has 3 college years under his belt. Hell, I’d hire him for at least 12.50/ hour and STILL let him work from home!! You don’t have to be smart to get a good job. I’ve worked with plenty of idiots during my professional career. He’s no dummy when it comes to football, so the real insult is to place him in any job outside of his expertise.

Eddie Maisonet: I think its just demonstrating the fact that he’s working to show that he’s willing to work and put money in his (and his family’s) pocket. I’ve got to believe that something better than that will be headed his way, but let’s be real, it’s a recession out here in these streets and anything you can get is better than nothing real talk.

Lovette Ajayi: That’s what happens when you get a college degree in “Leisure Studies”.

2. Plies has a new TV series coming out. He’s trying to find himself a female he can give his stamp of approval to, and label them a “Goonette.” Plies defines a Goonette as a strong, independent female… a female hustler. You want more insight? Check out this trailer:

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Basically, the ‘Goonette’ Plies wants to feature first is a Little Person Stripper. What do you think of Plies and this Goonette phenomenon?

Jennifer Garrett: Wait what? Plies is still relevant? The definition given in the info section of the video was enough to make my head spin faster than Linda Blair in a nightie. I’m terrified to even watch this. I think Plies needs to sit down. After his “Bust It Baby” auditions, I thought someone from the H.B.I.C. or even the H.N.I.C. clan had surely swept down and handled the business of getting rid of this guy. Being from Florida he makes me ashamed of my state. His music is played hard down there and people actually buy into this hype. I don’t even know what to say. He won’t stop until we make him. We will never make him because even the most educated and so-called classy black individuals still give this fool the attention that he needs to continue.

Gregory Roberson: Don’t really mess with Plies like that.  Can’t stand his music or his image, they both seem fake to me.  Thugs singing love songs, heard it all before.  Next.

Makia Kambon: So my love/hate relationship with rappers and their reality shows is the same love/hate relationship I have with with Strippers and strip clubs. On one hand you don’t want to hate on their hustle because they work for themselves, they make lots of tax-free money, and they have 10 fans for every one hater. Meanwhile the rest of us sit at a desk all day, hating our job, wishing we had all 3. On the other hand, I can’t be proud of them in front of my parents, the kids and certainly not white people. As a yuppie, talented tenth, and young black professional, I’m proud to embrace these titles. Some ladies don’t identify with any of those groups, so if Bust-it-Baby, Nasty Girl, or the Goonette shoe fits you…

PS. Plies could still get it…LOL

Eddie Maisonet: Not responding to this coonery. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea needs to question their dreams and ambitions in life. Next question.

Lovette Ajayi : iRebuke it in the name of all things uncouth. Goonette sounds like what they called the hoodrat smurf. iCant and iWont.

3. President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama met with Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II this week, and headlines were made when the Queen and Michelle Obama embraced each other. The Queen isn’t known as being touchy feely, yet she was willing to stand with her arm around Michelle Obama for a long period of time. What do you think about Michelle Obama’s potential as a worldwide icon? Is she the next Mother Teresa? Princess Diana?

Jennifer Garrett: Thank you so much for asking this question with common sense. The media blitz around this thing isthe-queen-and-michelle-obama-pic-epa-480743043 absolutely shameful. I think it says a lot that My Queen (Ok.. not mine, but as my family is British and still not American citizens, I tend to claim her) was willing to break protocol and embrace My First Lady. The Queen is a woman of class and esteem and is run by tradition yet she is human and could sense a genuine and sincere individual in Mrs. Obama. She was probably surprised by the action, but didn’t take offense to it (thus her embracing back) because I’m sure she is just pleased to have in her company someone that she more than likely can relate to. I bet if she could she would let Mrs. Obama sit on her Royal Court. *gets misty eyed* First Lady Obama will be the next Mrs. Obama.

Gregory Roberson: Don’t know about Michelle Obama’s potential as an ambassador of goodwill and hope.  She seems certainly polarizing (to no real fault of her own) here in America.  I think each First Lady has this potential but only a handful have realized it.  She’s not as politically active as Hillary Clinton was when Bill was in the White House.  She also hasn’t taken up a cause like Nancy Reagan or Barbara Bush.  She has the potential to be the next Eleanor Roosevelt but she’s gotta step in front of the mic and let her voice be heard on hard issues.  Dressing fashionably everywhere won’t get it done.

Makia Kambon: As a huge Princess Di fan, I think Michelle fits the bill all the way!(Minus the man hopping) She loves big hair, her fashion sense is timeless, and her poise is unmatched! I couldn’t have chosen a better American Princess myself. She is “powerful beyond measure”, and doesn’t fear that at all. Like Mother Teresa and Princess Diana, she is not afraid to do what she was released from the heaven to do. She will take women of the world to a whole new level, spiritually. I hope she is never taken from us too soon like the late Princess, but when it is her time, I have no doubt that God will welcome her with open arms saying “Well done my good and faithful servant.”

Eddie Maisonet: I think The Queen probably didn’t know what to expect, and Michelle isn’t tiny. Michelle’s listed at 5’11″, Queen Elizabeth is maybe 5’2″. When’s the last time you hugged anyone a foot taller than you? If they got a hold of you, you aren’t going anywhere! LOL, ok for real, along with her height, I believe her presence (and Barack’s) is monumental globally. Now, I wouldn’t go as far as to crown her Mother Teresa or Princess Di, but she can definitely be a world beater.

Lovette Ajayi: Michelle Obama isn’t the next Mother Theresa or Princess Diana. She got them both beat on the fashion game (may they rest in peace!). However, I hope she changes the world enough to have a legacy as bright as theirs. Those are some big shoes for her to fill, but I think she may be up to the challenge. Michelle is a BADDDD chick!

4. Madonna is looking to adopt an African child for the second time. Angelina Jolie’s attempts at adopting international children have been well documented. Should they be focused on helping American children find homes?

Jennifer Garrett: I am deeply saddened by the crimes and atrocities occurring all across the world. With that said there are problems HERE in this country. We have to start fixing home first! I’m going to start an organization to send all orphaned American children to countries across the world so that they will have a better chance at being adopted. I love me some Angie but I don’t know how they can walk the streets with their rainbow coalition from across the globe all the while ignoring the children here that need families. I mean if you want a family that looks like a Marble Cake then fine. However as big time humanitarians and philanthropist could you also please do something to at least make American Adoptions easier and more attractive to American families? Thanks.

Gregory Roberson: I don’t really see much wrong with this.  At the end of the day, these celebrities have the freedom madonna_malawi_narrowweb__300x4100to adopt whoever they want.  Whether we should dictate what nationality that should be limited to is unfair and paternalistic.  Finding a home for thousands of children might possibly never have the impact of raising one and loving it as your own when, in many instances, no one else would do so.

Makia Kambon: I once heard a quote that “Humanitarians are so concerned with the forest that they forget about the trees.” Madonna and Angelina are world humanitarians that contribute their time and money to support their philanthropic interest in many countries across the globe. If they want to pick one tree out of this global forest, then more power to them. Plus, I applaud anyone who takes care of kids that don’t belong to them.

Eddie Maisonet: I think both options are correct, the dilemma in Africa is beyond belief and anything celebrities can do to shed light on the problems in the mother land is a great idea. However, I would like to see America take care of…America. That’s what killed me in the Bush administration, that we were so concerned on all of these overseas issues that we never take care of home. I bet Madonna ain’t gonna take in Jammal from Watts who’s mama passed away in a drive-by.

Lovette Ajayi: They say charity begins at home but these people went to the market (not saying Africa my homeland is a marketplace or anything but just using it for analogy…) Mkay I’mo be quiet and just quit while I’m behind.

So I couldn’t quit and wrote a post about it at my blog. Check it.

5. FXP On the Spot: You’ve found Kwame Kilpatrick’s old Blackberry, and it has texts and picture messages from none other than Mrs. Obama. There is no way you can get close enough to the Commander-In-Chief to try and tell him on the low. What do you do?

Jennifer Garrett: Lord Jesus be a fence. I would probably go into shock and take to drinking. Actually, and this is going to sound HORRIBLE. But I would bury that thing. The Obama’s have done so much for Black Love I would refuse to aid Obama Kilpatrickin bringing that down. I mean what’s done in the dark always comes to the light, but I won’t be the one shining it. I just couldn’t. I would break it, burn it, bury it, and say a prayer that Mrs. O has a twin sister with the same name and perhaps it was some kinky role playing thing they were into. Or maybe Pres. Obama was in on it, and they were on some WIll & Jada. Whatever the case may be, I would be a Monkey’s Uncle before I destroyed the hope that the Obamas give us.

Gregory Roberson: As terrible as it sounds, I got to sell that bad boy.  I can’t imagine any more powerful and highly valued photo in the world.  I wouldn’t even necessarily sell it to a paper, but to whoever would need/want it most.  I saw that J-Lo got $8 million for first photo rights to her newborns.  I’d be willing to bet that these would go for at least $50 mil to a paper, $100+ mil to the Republican Party, and who knows what the Dems would pay for it.  College tuition for my family is locked up for generations.

Makia Kambon: Immediately I would think what I could get out the deal. That could probably include anything I could imagine. Bottom line is I wouldn’t tell… STOP SNITCHING! LOL.

Eddie Maisonet : Why do I have to do anything, it ain’t none of my business. I ain’t no snitch. Maybe he already know, Kwame could be sliding him some dough to keep it on the low. Maybe that’s why Detroit’s in such an economic decline, Obama’s taking the money out of his city. General Motors you get no money!

Lovette Ajayi: PSHT! I aint saying NOTHING! And ruin that utopic visual of Black love? I’d just need my 3rd eye to go blind as I act like I didn’t see it.

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5 Young Black Americans. 5 Questions. 5 Thoughtful & Entertaining Answers. Its the Weekly FXP Roundtable, and we’re talking about Mike Vick, Michelle Obama, Madonna’s African children, how Kwame’s Blackberry could cause some Obama beef, and most importantly, Plies ‘Goonette’.

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1 Ebonie Martin April 2, 2009 at 10:10 pm

I am with you Lovette about the Blackberry situation.

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2 Ashley April 3, 2009 at 5:29 am

Loved this new section!! I hope that we can encourage everyone to please ignore Plies and just hope he goes away.

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3 Luvvie April 3, 2009 at 12:37 pm

@Ashley,

Umm… the urban youth love Plies, and I weep. Lawd, I weep!

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4 Sunny Dee April 3, 2009 at 8:26 am

Love this section! This is great!

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5 [fung'ke] [blak April 3, 2009 at 8:51 am

R.I.P hip-hop courtesy of Plies & all others like him.

I want to know what do people have against adopting kids from the U.S.

Shout outs to Tom Cruise, Michelle Phieffer, Steve Spielberg, Calista Flockhart for saving a child in their own backyards.

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6 Luvvie April 3, 2009 at 12:38 pm

@[fung'ke] [blak] [chik],

I truly think adopting American kids isn't "exciting" enough for these celebrities. They need an African child to match their Louboutins and this season's Hermes bag. *side-eye*

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7 PBG April 3, 2009 at 8:54 am

Great new section. Loving the round table discussion.

My opinions are as follows:

Mr. Vick, I told you way back, the 'hood don't love you!

I love all things Obama. Period.

Madonna should climb the hills of Appalachia and find herself a new baby.

And, as deplorable as Plies and all of those of his ilk are, that tiny woman on the pole has to be the most amusing thing I've seen since I discovered Mutton Bustin' on Monday.

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8 JG* April 3, 2009 at 8:57 am

@PBG,

I must now go google "Mutton Bustin'"

And like you I love all things Obama. I am the ultimate Stan.

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9 JG* April 3, 2009 at 9:53 am

And now much to my chagrin, I have seen Mutton Bustin'. *SMH* Lord, help me.

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10 Sean Walton April 3, 2009 at 5:03 pm

@PBG, LOL, really… honestly. That little woman dancing is comedy. Absolute comedy.

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11 Amadeo April 3, 2009 at 10:10 am

The Vick thing is bigger than Vick. People tend to think of alot of athletes as dumb, but memorizing playbooks is no joke. I just think all of their focus goes to football. It's what get's them into school. It's what makes people pay them any mind. Then there's the time dedication…how many football players do you know that have jobs. NCAA won't let you. In high school you spend time practicing and working out to try to get into school. So dude has no degree, no experience and a bad rep.

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12 JG* April 3, 2009 at 10:19 am

@Amadeo, Well this is quite very true!!! However at my Alma Mater we recently had a player become a Rhodes Scholar. I'm not sure if he would have made it to the league, but all of his coverage made it seem like it was possible. But do you know how hard that must have been? Playing for a team that is constantly in the hunt for some kind of title (our Glory days were a while ago… but coming again!) while being a 4.0 student, and potential Rhodes Scholar!? They really don't have time for school. The players on that level are in it to make it to the league and that's it. Vick had the formula all figured out, but he tripped up. So sad.

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13 RiPPa April 3, 2009 at 10:30 am

All I wanna know is: How come Michael Vick got a job so fast?

LOL

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14 Luvvie April 3, 2009 at 12:35 pm

@RiPPa, I know right? How did he get a gig in these TET (tough economic times)?

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15 Joe T. April 3, 2009 at 11:11 am

1. Michael Vick is not a convicted felon… that says nothing of his intelligence outside of not getting caught breaking the law. It is hard for ANY convicted felon to get a job after release, which is why it is beneficial for us to stay out of the system. There are very intelligent and degreed black pro athletes and it is a disservice to call attention to those with 'leisure studies' degrees as was stated without making mention of the ones that could work in their degree'd fields upon retirement. Vick got 2 years for killing dogs… There are those that kill babies and it's legal…

2. For the most part… Reality TV Blows…Plies sucks… So, putting them together… we going to see some major blowing and sucking on TV…

3. You know you have something special when people from other nations will be their nation's protocols for you.

4. It's a shame that people will adopt and build schools overseas and won't help the people that are suffering over here. 5. I would destroy the BlackBerry and all its contents. The problem we have now is that too many people are ready to tear people and find dirt on them. Some things need to be handled in house. If Mrs. Obama was having an affair, it will come out eventually and it doesn't need me to help bring down or imbrue any legacies…

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16 Joe T. April 3, 2009 at 11:13 am

@Joe T., Corrections: meant to say Vick IS a convicted felon… too bad you can't edit your own posts… oh, and it should read tear people DOWN…

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17 Rick Jones April 3, 2009 at 11:21 am

Great new section. It gives me something entertaining to read, when the office is slow.

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18 Alissa Griffith April 3, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Does Michael Vick have to work as part of his punishment or something? He's a multi-millionaire so why would he work at all? It seems to me that he should let someone who actually *needs* a job get that construction gig instead of him. Vick could go speak at schools about dogfighting or better yet, he can remind the country that dogs aren't people and people should never sit in prison over a dog. (I digress).

Oh and I'm SO OVER these celebrities tryna adopt the world when people right here at home need help. (I love Oprah, but she is included in my annoyance). Then again, it's their money, they can do what they want. Besides, Angelina Jolie and Madonna are shameless homewreckers anyway and I don't like either of them.

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19 Amadeo April 3, 2009 at 12:47 pm

@Alissa Griffith, Actually he's not…when he got locked up alot of people came for their money with the thought that he wouldn't be making anymore money. Then the Falcons took back bonus money (which is usually the largest amount of cash in hand). Dude got his pockets broke just by being charged.

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20 Alissa Griffith April 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm

@Amadeo, I find it hard to believe he lost all of his money. But, maybe he did. If so, that's terrible. Maybe these sports players should be taught how to save just in case hard times come on them. It seems basic. Sure Vick prolly never thought he'd be arrested, but he could've gotten hurt or something. I would hope he has some money saved up.

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21 JG* April 3, 2009 at 12:57 pm

@Alissa Griffith, Yea* what Amadeo said. And that money runs out fast! I have several friends who are now in the league who are practically broke, waiting on that next contract. If they get injured, it's the pits for them. This is a big piece missing in the league. Helping these players appropriately invest/save/budget. Someone I know got about 12 million upon entering the league…. Gone. Still playing though, so it will keep coming, but it disappears fast. And in Vick's case, he got it snatched from him, and lost his endorsements.

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22 Gregory Q. Roberson April 3, 2009 at 4:06 pm

@JG*,

I think it's a very serious issue that needs addressing concerning how fast our young black athletes run through their money. The social implications of this are quite disturbing to me. I recently read that in the NFL (a majority black league) 70% of athletes retire in debt or bankrupt? How can this be so?

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23 Gregory Q. Roberson April 3, 2009 at 12:29 pm

I'm still struggling to understand why people think that celebrities should adopt kids here in America. That logic is akin to saying we shouldn't try to reduce AIDS in Africa because we can reduce AIDS in America. Or we shouldn't care about international genocide because we have violence here. The average international homeless child is MUCH worse off than the average domestic child. Undoubtedly these celebrities probably make donations for American homelessness but the fact of the matter is that without their assistance, a lot of these international children would surely die. Why are we complaining about who should be helping who and not commending them for helping period?

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24 Luvvie April 3, 2009 at 12:36 pm

@Gregory Q. Roberson,

Because these celebrities seem to have turned what should seemingly be an act of goodwill into publicity stunts. They've turned African kids into the new "IT" things and their actions seem disingenuous.

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25 JG* April 3, 2009 at 12:38 pm

@Gregory Q. Roberson, well I feel what you're saying. I just think there is a a balance. And I'm not saying what they should or shouldn't do, just how I feel about it. But the same logic could be applied in reverse. Don't adopt here because you should be adopting over there. At the end of the day, I don't care what they do, but as Loud Voices, it would be nice to *see* (because they may do it, we just don't see it) them helping the adoption situation over here a bit too. By speaking or working on laws. Often times non-celebs will adopt abroad simply because it's easier, and not because they happened to be traveling in a village and noticed a poor starving child and just had to save him.

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26 Alissa Griffith April 3, 2009 at 12:47 pm

@Gregory Q. Roberson, Greg, I see your point. But do you think we should try to reduce AIDS in Africa *instead of* reducing AIDS in America? Of course not because we can do both at the same time. When a person is choosing to adopt outside of the country or build a school outside of our country then they are choosing to help kids in other countries *instead of* helping kids over here. Personally, I am an advocate of "taking care of home". If I had a million dollars and my nephews needed to go to college, I wouldn't go pay some other kids way. I would take care of my nephews first and then if I had extra, I would help someone else's kids. Same if I had the means to adopt. I wouldn't adopt outside of the country, I would adopt kids right here. Starving is starving and orphans are orphans no matter which side of the equator you're on. I think these celebrities adopt outside of the country because there is more recognition in that. No one cares if you help your own family (or in their case, their own country). So they go to Ethiopia or wherever so they can get the recognition. But, as I said, it's their money. They can do what they want with it. I jus think it's silly.

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27 Gregory Q. Roberson April 3, 2009 at 4:02 pm

@Alissa Griffith,

I think why these celebs adopt abroad is because no one else will (I also admit there is a great deal of publicity involved in it). People assume, probably incorrectly, that kids here have a better chance to be adopted or to survive because we live in a relatively good society. The starving and orphaned abroad have no real chance. Many of their native citizens do not adopt, whereas here in American, many couples adopt. I completely agree with you that we need to "take care of home" first. I only hold that view when it comes to using government money. I don't think the government should really be giving billions of dollars in foreign aid when our poor and destitute are just as needy right here. I do, however, think when private citizens adopt abroad that there is something deeper to it. I think the fact that celebrities are celebrities and anything they do is construed to be for publicity purposes, which is unfair.

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28 dee April 3, 2009 at 1:33 pm

When I first saw that Plies video I damn near threw up in my mouth. Not because of the little person, not because of the stripping, but because it seems that for every Black woman or man trying to better them self there is someone like Plies trying to keep us down. The fact that he even has the BALLS to make this garbage makes me incredibly angry.

When are we going to learn?!

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29 Amadeo April 6, 2009 at 8:27 am

Re: NFL players going broke it's easy to see how….young person who's life has had a main focus get's large amount of money in a 5-10 year period. So when most of us are hitting are groove their career is over. Being surrounded by people who give bad advice, taking care of a number of people. Not understanding how to invest and having some of the worst contracts It's not just black players either. Vick's case is not a standard one, him and Ricky Williams….both of them had massive amounts of money taken back from them. Vick also had sponsors trying to get money from him, whereas with Ricky they took back bonus money from before he was even with his team. In general though NFL players as a whole don't make a lot of money…we see the big contracts and even they get restructured, or get dropped before they can get roster bonuses. Most importantly they have one of the smallest windows to make the bulk of their money.

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