Recently, while engaging in yet another dead-end discussion about black men dating white women, I made a statement that interracial marriage should be made illegal again in this country. I was partially being facetious, but to be honest, I am a woman who feels strongly about interracial dating/marriage, particularly between black men and white women.
This isn’t a new issue in the black community; in fact the topic has probably been beaten to death. But recently I began thinking, if white men don’t care about their women being “taken” by black men, why do black women take black men’s decision to date outside of their race so personal?
Never have I heard of a white man, except maybe the grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, denouncing interracial relationships between black men and white women the way black women do. Is it because we really care about establishing strong black homes for black children to grow in, or is it because we feel personally rejected when the star athlete or Columbia business school graduate chooses to scoop up the first white woman he sees rather than find an educated African American female counterpart to build a home with?
If the first part were true then we really wouldn’t care about the unemployed black man in the hood living with his mama while Becky takes care of their two biracial children, because even though we know good and well we don’t want that man, we still give him and his baby mom rude stares when we see them out together.
You won’t find a white man doing this. Perhaps it’s because they have a bigger pond of successful white women to choose from than we do successful black men. Maybe that’s why we feel a sharp pang of anger every time we think we’ve “lost” another good brother to a white woman.
My opposition of black men dating white women stems from the fact that I’ve never heard black men express a genuine admiration for white women. Although I’m sure there are some brothers who truly love the white woman they are with, I typically hear such explanations as “black women have too much attitude,” “white women know their place and don’t complain,” “white women know how to make a man feel good,” and other explanations of sexually explicit acts as reasons for dating white women.
Of course a black woman is going to take offense to that and frankly be disappointed that, rather than step up to the plate, some black men have chosen to take the easy way out, and date someone they can run over and control. But what about white women’s reasoning for dating black men, which at the risk of being stereotypical, I feel typically has to deal with this fantasy of buck-wild sex from a well-endowed man.
You never hear a white man complain about a white woman giving it up to a brother instead of him; in fact, I’m willing to bet he would quickly give the brother a high-five at his conquest, because they probably believe in the Mandingo myth as well. There are some white men who even support their wives seeking out black men or going on destination trips to screw some man from the Caribbean because they want their wives to be pleased sexually (see: myth).
The more I think of the superficial reasons for these interracial rendezvous the angrier I get that these black men can’t see the value in being with a woman of color and working for the relationship. But when it comes down to it, the problem is there’s, not mine. Regardless of why white men don’t care and why we do care, perhaps its time to stop giving so much energy to the topic. The angrier we get at the idea, the more black men use it as ammunition to continue to seek women outside of their race. And really, what are we achieving by constantly bashing the brothers that consciously or unconsciously make this dating choice?
Yes, we know the stats on how many black men are gay and in jail and how many black women are single, but at the end of the day, a man is going to do what he wants to do regardless, which likely will include dating a white woman. So really, if white men don’t care, why should we?
Article by Brande Victorian
BVic is University of Cincinnati journalism graduate and New York City resident still trying to figure out where she made that wrong left turn, or as one reader put it, a black woman with too much education and a big mouth. Either way, she’s concerned about her people and wants them to do better. Follow her @Be_Vic.
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While I agree with a lot of what is said in this article, I personally believe that white men DO care about white women dating black men (and other races as well). The reason why you don’t “hear” it as much could be that you (and by ‘you’ I mean ‘a lot of black women’) don’t hang around white men like that to hear them complain about white women dating outside their race. Trust me, I’m almost 100 percent positive that white men are no more pleased when they see an interracial couple than black women are. They just aren’t as, ahem, “vocal” as some of us black females are. Just saying…
I agree with the above poster, white men do care too.
Personally, I don’t care. I used to care because I felt like it represented the decline in the black family, but I realized that what others do has little to do with what I do. So…. I don’t care.
Every time I hear this argument it makes my stomach turn:
We’re complaining about “Interracial Dating”… And it’s all about “dating” these days… What about marriage?
What ever happened to the desire to build strong black families? This isn’t racism or classism, because few of us would depend on a non-black human being to educate our youth on the pride, power, strength, and iron will of our ancestors. No one can educate the black youth on pride and respect for their race better than another black person.
People should date according to FAMILY VALUES… But maybe I’m just talking to the air on this one… I care about interracial dating, but I also care that black women are becoming exponentially bitter towards black men, and vice-versa… Let’s solve this problem before we tackle interracial dating?
@Epsilon, Excellent point. I agree that black women and black men are becoming extremely bitter toward one another and I think that bitterness is manifesting itself in dating outside of one’s race rather than addressing the deep-rooted issues that exist between black men and women. That’s a discussion that needs to happen in order to build strong black families.
I have quite a few white male friends and I have never heard one of them mention being upset about white women being ‘taken’ by black men. None of them have difficulty finding a white woman to spend time with if that’s what they want. To Black people ‘white’ encompasses a huge group of people based on skin tone and not ethnicity. A lot of my white male friends are purists when it comes to ‘white’ women, i.e., if he’s Italian, she needs to be Italian in order to be considered as a life mate, and the same is also true for my Greek and Serbian friends.
I think Black people, and black women particularly, have been conditioned to think ‘White woman’ and automatically conjure up a Blonde Blue-eyed playboy model, see:Barbie….but I can’t count one of my white guy friends who thinks that is their ideal woman. Barbie doesn’t look like the wife/model type…she looks like just what she is, a toy. And truth be told, quite a few of my white friends are starting to date black women. I don’t hear black men sucking their teeth and commenting when they see a black woman with a white man! People are going to be with whoever they please, and this same conversation that’s been going on forever will probably still be going on when our grandchildren have grandchildren. It solves nothing….why do we (as black women) care so much? I don’t feel that any white woman has taken anything from me personally just because she’s dating a Black man…if white women are his type, then he wasn’t in my pool of eligible men to begin with. No harm, No foul.
@Camielle, You say that you never hear black men sucking their teeth and commenting when they see a black woman with a white man….this isn’t true at all. LOL. I had a white boyfriend once and OMG, we got soooo many snide comments, stares and just plain rudeness from black guys (friends and complete strangers) all the time. It was unbelievable to me. (Luckily, my boyfriend wasn’t no punk.) It’s not as prevalent, but I think any black woman who dated a white man in the open can attest to the fact that the black men get mad too. One random black man told me it was “personally insulting” for him to see me out with a white guy. No lie. Lol.
@Alissa, I’m w/you Alissa. I am currently dating a white man, for the first time, at the age of 30! We get the side eyes and stares and straight up looks of confusion, from ALL sides. Black men & women and white women, not so much white men. We had an incident just this past weekend where this brother was determined to get at me, even with my man right there, but luckily my man ain’t no punk either.
Unfortunately, this is something that we’ll have to deal with as long as we’re toghether…
I was/am one of those “angry Black women” that couldn’t stand to see a brother with a white woman. I believe that their reasoning for being in those types of relationships, most of the time are very different. The majority of black men date white women out of convienence, just as BVic said. Maybe they’re finding the love later, but I KNOW it begins from the black man just being straight lazy and now wanting to be challenged by a black woman that simply wants to see her man live up to his fullest potential. For me, I’m with my (white) man not because it’s easier, it’s not. It’s because he is right for me and at 30 that’s all I really need. I used to run from white men because I thought I could NEVER be in a relationship with someone who couldn’t understand my struggle, but all I really did was prevent myself from the kind of happiness I sought and deserve…
How is it you “KNOW it begins from the black man being straight lazy?” The brothers who give you the side eyes and stares could say that they KNOW you with the white guy because you couldn’t handle dealing with a black man or because the white guy has money (both assumptions and stereotypes). The brothers would be wrong just as you are in assuming that a black man is just lazy when he dates a white man. I have no doubt that your relationship with your current boyfriend is based on genuine attraction and compatibility, so why do you assume that black men are doing it for any other reason. Don’t get me wrong, I get all the reasons us brothers like to say as to why we may/may not date white woman, but those are the exception and not the rule IMO. Bottomline, it’s disingenuous for you to say in one breath that your relationship is genuine, but “the majority” of black men who date white women are lazy and afraid of a strong black woman…Hi pot, my name is kettle.
White me used to show they cared by hurting or killing us. Interesting that this comes up now…they just made move to pardon Jack Johnson for basically…messing with a white woman. I do wonder why women care so much. When black men complain about a sista and a white dude…they’re really just saying: “Why she ain’t with me?”…unless they’re israelites or something.
I just don’t think it matters. Growing up, black girls are conditioned by black older women in general to dislike seeing a black man with a white woman. Thankfully, my mom wasn’t like that so I never internalized that silliness. I’m never offended to see a black man with a white woman. That’s so 1959. I’ll admit what I don’t like is when black men who prefer white women use general statements like, “Black girls are too this, or not enough this, or whatever”. To me that’s just mean and unnecessary.
@Alissa,
That generalization is the only thing that bothers me. If your preference happens to be white women, so be it. But to say that all black women [whatever negative BS stereotype] while white women [insert Uncle Rukus-style praise here] is sad.
As far as the OP, some white men definitely care. Maybe it’s “more accepted” for them to express that here in MS than they do other places. I have seen the faces & heard the comments from some of them who feel “their women” are being taken from them.
I think its all in who thinks what. Black men have explored the option of dating women outside their race for years. I hear a lot of black women complain that there are “not enough good black men” but look in all of the wrong places or base it off of a few experiences. But I have seen a rise in black women dating white men. Personally, my preference is a black woman. As long as they are not dating outside their race because they say “I cant stand black men/women” Its cool.
Any white woman fucking with black man is tainted ,and to me is diseased. I do not want to touch her .Period.
What kind of low life are you to even attempt to make a comment of that nature. That is so repulsive. DISEASED? do you even know what the definition of diseased is you fool? To be sick, and ill. WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT WHAT COLOR IS DATING WHAT COLOR. get over this strong black women issue, and this prissy little white girl who men can control. Love is not about color or fantasies .. it is about two humans appreciating each other, becoming companions for each other and who make each other happy. WOW. seriously get over color, and stop projecting your feelings about other peoples relationships in a negative manor. If two people are happy and in love… I say that all you fools are jealous you can’t find the same thing. All of this posts in some way or another are making me sick. Black men are too scared to find a strong educated black women… Um excuse me?!?! I am a strong educated white women and I have as much to offer as allll you black women. Get over it … stop putting your energy into being straight up haters. People are people … and should not be looked at as having a color. wow… this is a disgraceful
I’ve always been against co-mingling of the races, so I care. I think the reasons some black men use for dating outside of their race are absurd and unjustifiable, i.e. black women are too ghetto..bullshit like that.. I guess I dont necessarily mind the dating (maybe thats a lie), its when marriage and children come into the picture. Its hard enough raising a black child in a 2 black parent home, but then replace that black mother with a white one, then even more problems arise. Im not a multi racial person, so I dont know what its like to be raised in that type of environment, but I have seen the negative impacts.
Honestly, I think I may have a personal vendetta against white women as a whole..call me prejudice (I’ll admit to that). But when I see an interracial couple walking down the aisle in Target, whether they’re a middle class looking married couple or a baby mama/daddy team from up the block..my blood boils! Oh well, i’ll get over it.
And i bet the white man standing next to me is having the same reaction..he’s just finally figured out that he can’t call the lynch mob anymore and if he actually voiced his dissatisfaction..he might get his ass kick.
@Torrey,Why are you against the co mingling of races? Are you 100% anything? Most african americans have no idea what part of Africa they originated in nor who their ancestors where so how can you even say that?If you are not the result of co-mingling, as you call it please respond describing your ethnicity and it’s purity because i’m almost certain techinically you’re mixed too. I am a multiracial person and I woudn’t have it any other way. I’m fully aware of who I am where I came from and always have been. What kind of problems are you talking about? Life is full of problems but for those you love you work through them. Maybe since you aren’t multiracial you shouldn’t go around pretend you know what it’s like. There are negatives in all aspects of life.I’m glad you’re willing to admit what a racist bigot you are. While you’re walking around Target (trying to be white by spending too much on food at a trendy grocery) ALONE you’ll see that married couple and their beautiful children I’ll be the one who passes by and gives the kids compliments and both parents an approving smile for their beautiful family and devotion to TRUE love.
@Larla, I thought about what my response would be to your ignorance, but I dont have anything constructive or positive to say..so I’ll leave it alone. Thanks for your input. Now excuse me while I make my weekly trip to Target, since I want to be white so badly. My Goodness
@Torrey, aside from the target comment(made in anger due to the fact that what you’re basically saying is that I shouldn’t exist)what makes you think i’m ignorant?Please tell me what ethnicity it is that makes up 100% of your bloodline? I bet you can’t. I’d also like to know what some of these negative impacts you’re referring to because although my experience with racism may be more unique or rare no situation i’ve ever been in has made me think that I should not have been born just because narrow minded people like don’t understand my loving,beautiful, strong black family.
@Torrey, I find it interesting that it took you 46 minutes to respond but none of her questions were answered and seems like she’s still waiting. Personally I’d like to know the answers to her questions too. how can you say things like that without backing them up?
@Idliketoknowtoo, Sure, first of all, I didnt realize my job was to sit on the site and wait for comments to my response. I guess now youre even more perturbed that it took me a couple days to respond.
I dont care for interracial dating, because I dont care for interracial dating. Jus like some people dont like chocolate or broccoli, I DONT LIKE IT! And I didnt say mixed people shouldnt be born, what kind of shit is that?! I said, I dont care for interracial dating! Dont make exaggerations and assumptions like that.
You’re right, most black americans arent able to pinpoint their exact make up. But who’s fault is that? I know in my immediate family, there are not white people, no other ethnicity, but Im sure somewhere, way back when, maybe one of my ancestors was raped by her master..now enters the white bloodline.
True, we all have problems in our families and lives. But when your white mother refuses you permission to spend a weekend with your black fathers family for no reason, then what. This is the problem I’ve seen first hand. From the beginning that white womans family didnt like the idea she was marrying a black man, and even worse had a baby with him. Now that hate is being passed on to their son. He barely sees his black family, hence she is denying him access to a part of who he is. Now, maybe you can shed some light on why a mother would do that to her child.
“Im not a multi racial person, so I dont know what its like to be raised in that type of environment, but I have seen the negative impacts.” This is clearly what I stated in the initial comment, but maybe you missed that.
Finally, the beauty of free thinking and free will, is that I can think whatever the fuck I want to about anything, without the need to justify or reason with anyone, or hoax anyone to believe what I believe. This is how I feel about this particular issue. You dont have to agree, but dont attack me for standing out and voicing my opinion. Respect that shit and keep it moving..
Peace
@Torrey, Well I feel really bad for the mixed children that you’re referring to. Interacial relationships are hard that’s why I said if true love isn’t present it won’t last but maybe i’m wrong i’m sure a lot of people live loveless marriages interacial or not. And all bad marriages and childish adults hurt their children regardless of their skin color. The situation with the mother refusing her children the right to spend time with their father’s family to me is confusing. Why wouldn’t she let them? Because she’s racist and doesn’t want her black kids around their black family? This is just not making much sense to me but maybe that’s because I was raised by a white woman who had a lot of good sense. My mother would NEVER tell me I can’t spend time with any of my family(unless they’ve proven themselves to be irresponsible or something). It actually was her family (two people out of about 65) that took some time to warm up to me and because of that she feels more at home with my father’s family than her own. And as far as hate being passed down to the child, it is a parents responsibility to protect their children. Anyone who has a problem with my exsistance from either side of the family has never come in contact with me. Why would you bring your child around people who dislike or disrespect them? My mother has always made it known with family or strangers that her attitude toward racist people and her child goes a little something like this: “If you don’t approve of my family, it’s your problem not mine but if you mess with or hurt my kids now you’ve made it mine” I think maybe your point of view might be tainted by examples of generally bad couples who happened to be interacial because the examples given could happen with anyone who lacks intelligence but has kids. You can’t tell me you’ve never seen an all black or all white family with inlaw issues.
@Larla, Torrey, I find that you have every right not to like interracial dating. However, if you don’t like it so much then why spend your time pondering it? If seeing interracial couples (I am assuming you are only talking about Black and White couplings) so bother you, then why don’t you turn your head and think of happier thoughts? As far as being multi-racial, we must remember that ALL humans are interrelated. One does not even have to believe in the Biblical story of Adam and Eve to have proof that all humans alive today had origins in Mother Africa. It was only through time, distance, environment and separation, that different populations (read: ethnicities) arose around the world. We are all, from the lightest to the darkest equally descended from our common ancestors. Buy virtue of the fact that we are all here on Earth at the same time, signifies that we are all just as far removed from “original” humans as anyone else currently inhabiting this home planet. Modern science through genetic testing has proven this fact unequivocally; we are all cousins in the Family of Humankind. So if you don’t like lighter cousins dating or marrying darker cousins, then simply make sure that you date the colour of your choice. Why begrudge others’ happiness? Find your own happiness and let others be happy in their lives. Its called Live and Let LIve….
whoa, WHITE MEN DEFINITELY CARE. Just because they don’t hang you anymore for it, doesn’t mean that SOME of them would like to. But white men are no more racist than black women when it comes to that type of thing. Generally, the only color I don’t like is blue………damn police.
@undressingHER,
Haha! Preach it!
I agree
I think Chris Rock made an excellent point on his last stand up DVD…he stated that “black woman are mad at interracial dating because they’re not attracted white men…” paraphrasing of course, but I believe this is so true…
Most black women consciously or sub-consciously dream of, will wait for, or will die for a black man…black women have been the backbone behind the black family so long that sharing that with a white man seems to make black women cringe in the stomach…
Don’t ever forget this either…
White men care…they care a lot…black men just aren’t getting the right white women. U won’t see a Bush, a Clinton, a Rockefella, a Kennedy, a Buffet, a Gates, or any other American power family daughters with black men…then you’ll see some outrage…black men get the middle class white women on down which is a move up or sideways for most black men so it works out, but it will only go so far up…
Racism is stupid even when practiced by blacks. If a sista or brother finds a mate of ANY color that makes them happy they are both lucky and should get the blessing of friends or family. A black person who dogs out another black person for dating a white ( or any other race) is no better than david duke or any other member of the KKK or natzi party.
they don’t? sh*t better not tell my rather dark skinned g/f…she is 29 and has not been with a a black guy in a decade…I am hoping we will be engaged soon.
Black women LOVE white men… They (well african american women)just face an AMAZING amount of social pressure not to date outside their own race. If a white person said any of the things my g/f’s family say regularly about interacial dating he/she would be labeled a kkk member or racist and likely be fired for saying them at work. there is a HUGE double standard in this.
This said the standard only exists with african american women..I have dated many black womeen recently immigrated from africa or the islands and I can say that many prefer white men and black to white racism is VERY rare among recent black immigrants.. I even had a girl from the islands tell me her black father told her to marry a white guy if she married an american..I think most recent immigrants feel white men are more culturally compatable with them than african american men. In fact as a white man who prefers dark( think hershey special dark) women i find women who are born overseas have more in common with me than black women born 100 miles away..this is by the way a SAD comentary on the state of the USA, but that is another topic.
Tips to black women:
1. be open about race. With a 1:4 chance that you will never marry you would think that I would not have to say this, but the fact that i do means there is a problem.
2. Many of the complaints you hear about black women are true to a certain degree. Look in the mirror, if you see them work on yourself. Nobody is perfect we can all do better.
3. open up to new ideas in life. Try new foods, movies, music, etc. If you find yourself saying” black people don’t do that” then you need to think about a time when black people did not Vote, become doctors, get elected president, etc. You tell your sons and daughters they can do anything they want, why would you limit yourself to the stereotypical confines of a subculture?
4. Be approachable. As a white man who has dated black women and white women I can tell you that many african american women are HARD to approach esp for a white guy. If you are 35 and single and do not want to be YOU MAY NOT BE AN EASY PERSON TO ASK OUT.
5. If you want to date white men or are open to it…you need to understand that they will likely approach you in more subtle ways than you are used to. I had a 20 minute conversation with a black woman one time…I was (in my mind) being EXTREMELY forward. She kept talking to me nicely but acting in a way that she did not understand what i was saying..then she looked at me and said “Oh!” and I guess a lite came on ..this guy is flirting…she flirted back…but honestly most white guys would have given up before then…
6. If your sister or aunt or friends tell you how they would never date a white guy, well look at them. How many of them are single? How many divorced? How many married to men who treat them badly? My G/f gets a lot of grief from her aunt( 50 , single with almost no hope of marriage) about dating a white man and how awful it is. Her half sister who is a single mother 37 and currently has no prospects tells her kinda the same thing. WTF do these women know. My g.f is 29 and about to get an engagement ring from an attractive( well i think so) employed, comfortably middle/upper middle class man, with no children from anybody else, who is healthy, no criminal record, not substance dependant, who loves her and has mindblowing sex with her at least 3 times a week.
lastly be more open sexually. I know this may sound like a stereo type but there is some truth at least in my exp. Many black women are less open sexually to certain things than white girls. For me, patients has shown that when they try these things they tend to like them….learn from this advice.
Be happy …and remember racism is not pride. Go to the KKK or aryan nations web site and I am sure you will hear about “White pride” and ” promoting white homes for white children” A black Biggot is still a biggot.
Race is not even a real concept according to many who study DNA. Why base your life on it?
I really do not care. Not at all. Love can be tough. It kicks our asses on a daily basis. It’s tough enough to find a person that you’re attracted to, who’s attracted to you, who you can get along with for an extended period of time. So I hold no issue or grudges with whom folks find love.
You know what bugs me? Extremely attractive gay men. All that fine and I don’t have a CHANCE of getting any of it? Hmph. That’s a problem. Lol.
@Robin Monique,
You and me both. And I’ve hit on one too many gay men to know the rejection sucks ass.
@ChaoticDiva, Well the truth is, if you want a hot gay man then you have to have a penis.
@Robin Monique, i agree with u
That is why I made the decision to date outside of just Black men. And I have honestly had some great experiences dating White, Arab, and even Asian men*. Since I have broadened my horizons, I have found that stereotypes exist for non-Black men that aren’t always great, and I also found that non-Black men tend to appreciate Black beauty that much more, and they often shamelessly do things to make you feel beautiful.
So ladies, I definitely suggest trying it…it is wonderful on the self esteem!
(*note: I did not mention Latino because I embrace my own Latino heritage with my black heritage, making it where dating a Black or a Latino is dating within my own “race”.)
From this guy’s perspective, I don’t have a problem with interracial dating…unless the female is attractive. Lol.
Let’s all remeber that Loving v. Virginia, the case that legalized interracial MARRIAGE, was between a Black woman and a white man. This is certainly the ONLY reason it was passed. (A white man can get any law he wants passed in America…) So when I look at the “progression we’ve made in the past… 50 years… it doesn’t seem to benefit the originaters too much. White men and Black women have the lowest marriage rates with each other (well, right behind Black women and Asian men). Black men’s attration to white women stems from slavery. The whole “I want what I can’t have” mentality. Many believe that white women are the ultimate trophy. Even to have sex with on in college seems to officially introduce them to a world of privilege. But white women, unlike many Black women, want it all. They can sign on a Black guy for a marriage if he has the right amount of money and education. Or just money. They do not see Black women as high-maintainance, so we don’t get as much respect as white women do. And since Black men don’t put us on a pedestal, white men don’t look at us. And, we don’t look at them…. well, who wants a half-boiled lil’ smokey when you’ve had the grilled kielbasa? (I mean this in SO many more ways than the obvious.) As far as I’m concerned, “Obsessed,” told it all. White women think that even though they are no more successful than a Black woman with the same skills or job. they are better because they are white.
I’ll go more in depth with this one my blog.
Just remember, Black men, Barack is married to a BLACK woman. And Emmitt Till is watching you.
HAHAHHAH
just remember… Barack is MIXED!!!!! black and white…. TWO COLORS.
That’s the problem with so many black women. Why are you so worried about what some white woman is doing with some black man that you don’t want or don’t need. And you think that the white woman is messing up your chance at having a strong black family, when half the time the man they’re with is no good anyway. As for the other half of the time when the man is good….don’t worry about it because he doesn’t want you. Just step your game up and stop hating on the woman who beat you to the prize. I know you want to have a “strong black family” but half these dudes out here aren’t going to give you that. And instead of focusing so much on a “strong black family” how about a “strong family.” Instead of how about I just try to get the first nigga with ten fingers, ten toes, a job and penis to marry me?
I hate when people speak in absolutes (aka: “You NEVER hear…”). Um, HELLO, of course white men aren’t going to openly express their displeasure at seeing an interracial couple right in your, a black woman’s, face! Duh. You say we should stop fueling the fire of this topic, yet, here you are writing a poorly-written article about it. Fail.
@Thumbs waaaaay down, The use of the word never was more of a hyperbole, rather than an absolute statement. Of course I can’t possibly know how every person on this earth feels about interracial dating. However it is impossible to deny the fact that the black community, and particularly black women, discuss the issue of “white girls” dating black men far much more than white people do on a larger scale than saying it to my face, as you mentioned ,or even me overhearing it in conversation (although black women have a tendency to do just that and express their disgust at seeing an interracial couple together right on the spot).
Look at movies, sitcoms, discussion boards, comedy routines, web sites, blogs, and any other source of mainstream media in which the audience cannot be limited to only certain persons of color and you will see a disproportionate number of black women complaining that white women are stealing their men. Of course there are some white men who care, just as there are some black women who don’t care, but the point is that as a community we have fueled the fire for quite some years in a loud boisterous way that does not compare with the response from white men.
When I wrote on this topic, I didn’t take the typical route of so many other articles which simply explain why they think black men do this, taking it back to slavery and other like opinions, I spoke out to say that it is time to lay the issue to rest.
@Thumbs waaaaay down, Thank you, “thumbs way down”. I thought maybe I was the only one completely outraged by this ignorant rant.
@Thumbs waaaaay down, yeah i agree with you.I am in an interracial relationship myself, and i never knew i was gonna fall in love with a black man.But i did and we have been together for 2 years now and i love him and he loves me. WE are both college educated people who have it good in this world. I would hope that people would stop looking at this whole race thing. Love has no colors.
OMFG!
Is this conversation still going on? Haven’t you read the news lately, or are you so into yourself that you don’t read the news. Well let me clue you in, we have a black president and the first lady is black also, and my point is plain and simple. We, and I do mean we, can do whatever we want in this country. If it boils down to something as simple as dating then if I feel in love with Bigfoot then that is my choice. I’m a black man and i have never deliberately seeked out a white woman, but that’s who I’m with and I love her just the same. We have lots in common, we laugh just like I laugh with my black and white friends, we make love and it feels different only because I’m in love with her, not because of some wild sex act she is willing to do for me. As a matter of fact, she is quite conservative in that department and I’m ok with that.
Now, don’t get me wrong I do understand the complexities of this ongoing subject but in this world of 6.4 billion people don’t you think it’s time to just grab someone to love rather than holding out for something that will never change, nor will we ever truely be able to put a finger on.
P.S.
If you are that lonely that you’re writing about a topic that is as old as slavery, maybe you are the one with the problem. “Step out of the dark ages” my love and go get yourself a white man.
@Kenneth, It appears you’ve completely missed my point which is that this conversation doesn’t need to continue. What I wrote has nothing to do with being lonely and I certainly don’t like the assertion that I’m self-centered and not in tune with current events. Perhaps you’re the one who isn’t since you don’t realize that this conversation is still alive and thriving among black women and that is the very problem I was speaking about. You’re placing emphasis on things that have nothing to do with the issue I inteded to address-I didnt say people can’t do what they want to do (and just to note, that was evident way before Obama came into office), the point is black women need to let it go and stop feeling personally attacked whenever a man chooses to date outside of his race. It’s going to happen and there’s nothing that comes of the dirty stares and backlash.
@Kenneth,
No we do not have a black man in the presidential office; we have a man of Mix ethnicity. He identifies as black but that is not his ethnicity. Please don’t forget he exist because two people of different ethnical background fell in love or had a relationship. I say go with whomever you fall for and disregard those who disagree with your choice because you are the one in the relationship not them. The Constitution’s first amendment guarantees you a “pursuit of happiness”
@Kenneth, i agree with u
I really don’t understand why a BW would get upset with a BM dating/marrying a WW. I mean its not like BM are some kind of prize. A BM will cheat on her also. BW should consider their options and date out of the race. Non-Black men have more to offer and are better educated.
@Patricia,
This comment is racist… Highly indicative of a bitter Black Woman who has lost all faith in her progenitor race. I’m a Black Man and I happen to find Black Women to be the most beautiful beings on the face of the planet… NOT prizes. To see a woman as a prize means to see her as a trophy, and that’s part of what’s making women like you bitter, and it is causing an extremely damaging rift in the race relations between Blacks + Blacks.
Honestly, you’re making upstanding Black Women who date outside of their race, but still respect Black Men look bad. VERY bad…
I am not a bitter BW. I am just making an observation. Whitemen and Non-Whitemen are more educated than BM. I was not saying this because I am bitter. I am a college graduate and this is what I have seen. Very few BM attend college and quite frankly a lot of the BM that I entered college with did not graduate because they either quit , changed their majors, or did not have enough credits to graduate. When a man/women have a college education that person does have more to offer. I am sorry if this upset you because I did not mean to upset anyone it is just an observation that I have made and many other BW have made also.
@Patricia,
If your observation is that very few Black Men *that you entered college with* didn’t graduate for whatever reason, then that does not necessarily mean that ALL Black Men don’t attend+graduate from college, because I’m certain that there are more than a few Black Men here on FXP that could prove you glaringly wrong.
You are claiming that you are not bitter, but then you go on to say, “White men and Non-White men are more educated than Black Men”. <– Internal Racism.
There are a good number of Black PEOPLE that will take offense to what you say, not because it lacks solid evidence, but because just as you withdraw your faith in Black Men, you essentially slap the entire Black race in its face, plus you're further buying into the "divide and conquer" method used for so many years to separate the Black Man and Black Woman from each other mentally and spiritually. You've complained a myriad of times about how Black Men are uneducated (Which strikes a nerve within me because I take my education seriously, ma'am…) and worthless, but you are still contributing to the problem by complaining about the "No-Good" Black Men, and encouraging Black Women to separate themselves from their race and "date" non-Black Men.
I believe the whole point has been proven: Some people care, and some people don't care, and people have their reasons for that. But this whole dialogue is further tarnishing the race relations between Blacks because of how WE have given up on each other. People can date who they want, but when they date outside of their race to spite one another, then we have a racial epidemic. I believe that's what's in progress now…
I am a ‘White’ man living in a predominantly Black country(The Bahamas) surrounded by many beautiful black women of all shapes and sizes and i guess you could call me racist as i’ll never date a ‘white’ woman again!
@JAMES, yet another good point. people don’t always seek people from another race but what’s wrong with dating someone who has features you’re attracted to? sometimes there is no deep cultural meaning, it’s just plain ole physical (or emotional) attraction. No one controls what turns them on.
my attraction to black women is physical..I like dark skin..full lips..and LOVE braids..(although my current g/f hates them and never will have them)..i do not like hip hop…or act “black” my preference is physical the way some men prefer blondes…and i could love a woman of any color..
The woman I am in love with now..is black and we have a LOT of differences..but just for fun..the other day we talked about all the things we have in common..and WOW they outnumbered the differences…Sure I hate most of her music and shudder when she uses ebonics..but she hates some of my music too and prolly has her own ideas about the way i talk..but low and behold that shit f—ing don;t matter..we have each others back 24.7..we love each other and completely rock our worlds in bed..we can NOT look at each other without smiling..and we make each other want to be better people..and more importantly we remind each other that we can be.
@likeschocolate
It’s great that you think she rocks in bed and is beautiful, but will you MARRY her? I can find a guy–Black, White, Yellow, or Brown–who wants to sleep with me all day everyday. It’s the men that are upstanding and want to have a family and make me his wife/Queen that is worth something.
It annoys me that I see so many single, beautiful Black women while there are so many common looking White women that are married. It is even worse when said common White woman is married to a Black man.
I think you should love who you love, but my white girlfriends are always talking about how they want to get with a Black guy sexually and I hear the same from White guys wanting to get with Black women. It’s gross and tired. If you don’t see color than don’t talk about people’s race as some sort of fetish.
@JAMES, you are mentally ill. your mom maybe did not raise you right.but dont forget you have a white mother. Maybe you did not have a good white woman previously.Dontjudge all. And second of all be respectful towards your women. How could u say that?
@maria, Just because he loves his mother doesn’t mean he has to date white women. I love my daddy, but I’ve never dated a man resembling him. Who said love has to be politically correct, reasonable, or anything other than an individual trying to take care of their own heart?
This is what gets me about some African-Americans – some of you people live in a very primitive world divided into “black” and “white.” Ever considered what these terms mean when applied internationally? Are you at all aware of different countries and cultures? What race should my best friend who is Moroccan/Swiss date? How about my partner, who is North African/Russian, raised in Moscow? How about my sister and I, being that we are a mix of Hawaiian, Japanese, Kenyan, and French? Get out of your mental ghetto once in a while and think outside the black and white box. Complexity is beautiful. And you better believe people have the right to criticize your bigoted narrow-minded bullshit opinions. That’s the point of democracy.
First of all the question “Why should we care?” was asked and the answer is “You shouldn’t.” but the author continues with an article that leaves me wondering if she’s asking the readers “Why should we care?” or trying to figure out why she cares so much herself. Here’s a list of reminders and explanations for Miss BVic as well as others who do find themselves urked ,pissed ,jealous or confused by interracial dating.
1) The truth is it shouldn’t effect you at all. Its’ none of your business who every black man dates and why. They don’t owe you an explanation. Since when does being born african american mean that every woman the same color has dibs on you? I can’t believe you had the nerve to even joke about interacial marriage being illegal!!!Are you serious? That’s like saying “A lot of black people tend to be lazy so we should make slavery legal again”! I guess all the mixed babies should also be carried to a cliff and promptly dropped too? Don’t you realize that being able to love whoever you want is not only a God given right but a civil right? You know, the ones black people protested for, got attacked by police and dogs for among other horrible things? Dr. King would be shaking his head at you right now.
2) It’s also a right that you as a black woman also have. Most black women don’t date outside their race though. Maybe you should ask yourself why skin color that matches yours is a minimum requirement for love in your life. I understand that having the same race (especially if you are a minority) can give a couple a lot of common ground but if you can prove that opposites attract while having a healthy relationship what’s wrong with that?
3) The article mentions how white men don’t mind their women being “taken” by black people. This should be a hint to you how insanely close minded and racist your pov is. White people(generally speaking) are notorious for being racist in the past to anyone who basically isn’t white yet even white men, the ones who used to shoot black men for looking at a white woman the wrong way, are over this.(Note: I am aware of the portion that do mind but I’m also certain that we as black women don’t get to hear it much due to the general racism the conversation would imply.) They see a white woman dating a black guy and they see it for what it is, someone who is in a relationship that probably has more substanance then most because both partners are making a social sacrifice just to be together(ridicule, being shut out by family, experiencing racism that’s not even directed toward your race, and the list goes on). Interacial marriages and relationships are not easy. You think they don’t see you and your girls giving them the evil eye while they’re in the mall or eating dinner? They do, chances are they ACTUALLY LOVE EACH OTHER so the rude comments, stares, jokes, discrimination are setbacks but they’d rather deal with those things than be without each other. It’s almost like being gay when conservatives talk about whether or not being gay is a choice I think to myself “with all the discriminations that gays deal with if they could just chose to not be, why would anyone chose to be?”. I’ve heard gays say the very same thing “Why would I put myself through this discrimination on purpose? i’m just following my heart.”
4) The strong black homes argument. If we as blacks in the US really cared about strong black families the families that are 100% black would be stronger. To me this is an excuse people use to hide the racism that causes this disapproval of interracial relationships. If we’re really so concerned about building strong black families then why are there so many single black females and single black mothers? Ever hear the saying “P***y is power?” Why are we still getting knocked up by all the Pookies and RayRays and wondering why our families don’t turn out how we’d like? I understand the value of a strong black family but every member of your family doesn’t have to be black to have one. Trust me, the white person in the family will be treated like a black person by anyone who knows their family story. By the time they have kids they will understand the struggle enough to let their kids know whats up. This also reminds me of the movie Loosing Isiah. Ideally a black child should be raised by black parents but this doesn’t mean that an excellent white mother is somehow less adequate of taking care of a child. After all the child would be half white too. What’s wrong with diversity? Isn’t that what we ask for when we to see our culture appear in mainstream society. What’s wrong with a child having two races and two parents who teach them everything they need to know about both sides of their ancestry?
5) They’re taking all the good ones- BVic asks is part of the upset because “we feel personally rejected when the star athlete or Columbia business school graduate chooses to scoop up the first white woman he sees rather than find an educated African American female counterpart to build a home with?” DUH, YES! This is jealousy rearing it’s ugly little head. “and we get up he leave yo ass for a white girl!” still makes me cringe every time I hear goldigger but let’s look into why sucessful black men tend to date outside their race more often.
Class is probably a big factor. If you have a high profile job or even a significantly successful career chances are you spend most of your time working and (I hate to say it but it’s true) you’re probably surrounded by white people. Neighborhoods that have more expensive homes tend to be predominately white. We all know that if you work somewhere nice chances are you are a minority more in your work population than in general population. I learned about a study in a psych class that basically states that the more you are around someone the fonder you grow of them. So maybe these men aren’t looking for white women to share their wealth and success with it just happens to be who they are surrounded by. Here’s a novel idea, if you want to marry a Columbia business school graduate maybe you should go to Columbia business school. You want a high profile man, be a high profile woman. It’s not like every successful black man would rather have a white woman maybe you weren’t in college sitting next to him in class just like Becky and Betsy were. Michelle Obama for example, if you want an amazing man try being an amazing woman and stop making excuses. Sure some blacks guys are “strictly white” but these are usually the ignorant types we shouldn’t be breeding with anyway. A strong and successful man needs a woman who is the same and I believe that for most black men in that position her being black is just icing on the cake. Let’s remember though,no matter what color the icing it’s still cake.
6) The article talks about how black women still frown when they see a white woman with a black man no sane woman of any race would want. For what? This is obvious racism. “I don’t want that but I don’t want nobody else to have it.” If the guy’s a loser why you worried ’bout what he’s doing anyway? If that bothers you, you are either blatantly rasicst/got too much time on ya hands or both. Come on sistas, lets find something better to do with our time.
BVic also states on this matter that we don’t see white men doing this and suggests it’s because “they have a bigger pond of successful white women to choose from than we do successful black men. Maybe that’s why we feel a sharp pang of anger every time we think we’ve “lost” another good brother to a white woman.” My only response to this is that if you see yourself as a human first and foremost then the pool of men is endless. Try spending some time with someone just because you like them, you might just be surprised to find that although cultures throughout the world are different so are people. It also goes both ways, black men also have a smaller pond of successful black women to choose from than white men but most commonly the people that have issues with interracial relationships are black women. It’s time to mind ya own business and move on. White women aren’t upset about black women dating white men. For the most part white men don’t have a problem with interracial couples either. Black men- no problem. Sisters, I think this ship has sailed. It is not relevant or right for us to have any say on what other people do with their love lives.
7) White women are easier (to deal with)- This is the excuse black men give when being grilled by other blacks. I think it’s somewhat true but it’s just a cultural difference. If a man is the type who demands I cook and clean and serve him, quite frankly that is not the man for me. If another woman likes to be treated that way, that’s her business. It’s the same as worry about a white woman dating a man you’d never want. If a man is looking for a woman he can walk all over,I’m so not that chick(and I’d be more than happy to tell him so). This does kind of shoot down the “they take all the good ones” excuse. Seems like pretty much every excuse for racism showcased in the article has been shot down but let’s continue. Maybe it’s also just an easy answer. When questioning these men about why they love/like who they do does anyone ever wonder what it’s like to have people but a microscrope on your relationship everywhere you go? Have you ever had a bf/gf that people just blatantly and rather rudely asked you “What would make you want to be with her/him?” If not you might want to step into those shoes and think about it from that point of view before you try questioning someone about their personal life.
Each couple is different. Interacial relationships are complicated and hard. My parents have been married for 31 years and you wouldn’t believe all the crazy stories they have about discrimination they’ve experienced. It’s definately not worth it or going to last if the couple isn’t truly in love and willing to experience all that comes with the territory. As African Americans we’re so concerned about keeping white america in check about racism but we’re so quick to use racism on each other when it’s convient. If you believe all people are created by God and all are born equal in his eyes how can you walk around pretending it is ok to look down on interacial couples? So everyone worried about what someone else is doing take a look at yourself and truly ask yourself “Why do I care?”
@tiredofracismfromalldirections, I agree with you 100%. This world has lost identity, by giving us all names and races. I mean I have been in an interracial relationship for two years , and i realized that when you love a man, his color is the last thing on your mind. Its the happiness and love that you get from your partner that makes you happy.I guess i would just like for everyone to understand that in reality true love is hard to find. So i personally believe that when people see the combination of 2 different races, they start getting shocked. If true love is hard to find, then how did these two completely different individuals find that love? It really is about that and we have to start looking at it a little deeper. REalizing that we dont know what the future holds , and just accepting life . in order to move on and become stronger.
Sincerely marina from nyc i wish you th best and hope true love will come ur way, regardless of who and what it is.
Why do people automatically assume that to be in an interracial relationships means your relationship is better, more special and really must be about love? That to me, is racist because you’re saying that all people in interracial relationships can only be in them if they are really in love, when most of us black women know better. God gives all of us choices, it just so happens these black men make choices to either surround themselves with white or non-black women and then conveniently fall in love. I think we can control who we’re attracted to and who we fall in love with. I’m not going to ever fall in love with a woman and I find some women to be extremely beautiful. I’m not attracted to short men, but if I met someone who treated me right and loved and appreciated me, I could be attracted to them. Black men use the excuses of just falling in love, not being racist and just sharing similarities with someone or opposites attract. But why is that if love was colorblind that you don’t see these men with very licoriced color black women as often as you see them with women of other races. How come you don’t see them with morbidly obese black women as much as you see them with morbidly obese white women. Why do these put standards and qualifications on black women like she has to be light skinned, real long hair, slim and in shape, but not put the same requirements on other races? Why? Because black men have subconsciously been taught and programmed to think of black women as not as good as other races. We are not represented in the media or anywhere as beautiful. The only place you will find a twisted appreciation of black women is in some hoeish way like strip dancers, video models, or women that are scantilly clad, with butt or breasts hanging out. But these are hardly the women thay will marry, but they’re good enough to have sex with and add to the harem. Instead the girlfriend is the white, latina or asian woman. And black women accept being just a sex toy. Black men are the worst hypocrites ever. They don’t see race when it comes to dating, who they have sex with, who they make children with or who they marry, because let them tell it, and it’s all about love and chemistry. But have you noticed that anytime something happens to a black man against a white man, they want to cry racism. And want to bring up race then. They also want to bring up race when it comes to black women expanding their horizons and dating outside of their race. Now all of a sudden we are sleeping with slave master and slave rapers and the men that have oppressed them. When this is 2009 none of us have been oppressed or enslaved. So why not remember that they were lynched or castrated for whistling at white women or sleeping with them? How convenient! I don’t have anymore allegiance to black men. Far as I’m concerned, if they don’t see race, they’re not black. You are just a hueman, so stop speaking on black issues. If you didn’t care, why are you on this page? Why did you put in the search engine interracial dating? I know that’s how I found the blog? Just as you have your civil liberties and can date who you want, mine is to disagree or disapprove of it. That’s my right. I don’t have to be politically correct and say that I don’t have a problem with it. Majority of these black women on here saying they don’t have a problem are lying to themselves, they know they feel a tinge of disappointment and feel that black men put other women on a pedestal. Whereas every other race puts their own women up on one, black women are on an equal sometimes below equal platform with other races. If a few black women eff up, all of us have to pay for it. Yet we’re supposed to be okay with that and not worry about it. It is very disproportionate with black men. All other men overwhelmingly date and marry their own women. Black men are the only ones that go out of their way to be with other women. I can go out to the store anywhere and see a black man or watch tv and always guess who his wife will be and majority of the time, I guess right, she is not black. But if I see any other race in the aisles at the store, they are always with someone of their own race. Some people may say that this just means that black men are the least racist, but that’s a damn lie, black men are the most racist,especially when it comes to their own women. And don’t let her be coal black because they she’s only good if she’s thick and hoeish. Black men have failed and I don’t know why any woman sees them as a lsot because they’re really no good. I think the stats lie when they say that their are a disporportionate amount of blackwomen to black men. I think that God designed it that the good black men will get a good black women and there are just enough good black men for the good black women that want him. So I think it’s probably more black men to black women then the other way around. Think about it…
@Lala, Wow. Let me start by first saying I’ve made it very clear that I do not believe that loving interacial couples love each other more than loving couples of any other race BUT it is a fact that their marriages last longer…why? Because considering the discrimination and setbacks handed to them by our society it would not be worth it if love is not present. I’m not saying that interacial couples don’t have their fair share of loveless relationships also but my theory is simple: the number of cons (of being in a interacial relationship) are far greater than the pros so if you’re not in it for the right reasons any smart person would know it’s not worth the time.
You continually accuse all black men of being racist for dating outside of their race but then go on to refer to all black men as “no good”, “failures”! Do you think maybe meeting women like you make some black men feel as if it is easier just to date outside their race? You speak of population ratios but when it comes to actual numbers and proven facts all you have to say is “I think the stats lie”-what fact might this be based on? Whate staticstics are you referring from is it just a certain study you don’t believe,if so which one and why?You say is information about this available but you don’t believe them then continue on explaining what you would like to believe the facts are. I guess facts don’t uphold bigotry in a positive light. If you care so much about this issue(enough to look on a search engine for places you can spread your racist rhetoric) why do you not care enough to do some quick research before using assumptions to back up your opinion? Also i’d like to know your source for the “most black men i see are married outside of their race” statement or was that completely made up also?
And why do these anti-racists target black people who are so-called racist? Instead of other people that are racists? Why because they know they can make black people feel guilty and it’s easier to convince black people to fall in line with their ideas. How about you go target the KKK sites instead of sites for black people? I doubt they will because they only want to correct us with their mind control and have us accept everything they say is politically correct as the law. People are complex and we don’t all have to agree withs omething just because it’s the right thing to do according to the majority. Everybody knows that blacks are killing off their own race just like the Native Americans. Because all other races will continue to stick with their own. When the white people date outside of their race it’s a small portion of their community, for instance if 100 white women are dating outside of their race and they make up 60% of the population that’s not as bad as 100 black men dating outside of their race and they are only 15% of the population. We are the only ones buying the bullisht. White people can pretty much control black people’s mind with anything, they’re so dumb and stupid and fall for anything that is logical, when not everything can be explained. Some things are just intense emotions and you don’t know why you fell them, it’s just sensible. Well I guess if you gonna believe everything “they say” you mind as well believe that your brain is smaller too, at least this one is starting to actually make sense. Dumb black people!!!
@Lala, This comment is so wrong I haven’t even decided whether to maybe save you from years of wondering this planet so lost by trying to explain or just give up bc it’s obvious you are set in your confused and hateful ways.
@tiredofracismfromalldirections, *wandering this planet….
Has anybody noticed also that black men always try to call black women stupid and unintelligble for caring about it. But let us not care about their plight as a black man in America and we are insensitive? If you’re not a black woman, (not a biracial or multiracial) but a black woman you are not going to understand why a black woman feels rejected by her own men who she is naturally attracted to. I mean nowhere but in 21th century America is someone who wants to preserve their black family unit looked at as racist. Black man if you’re not a black woman don’t try to tell us how we should feel? You make us unattractive to other races of men by putting us down constantly so that black men are the only ones that we think we can get, so now you think you can shut us up about your lust for white women, so you don’t feel guilty about it. Not gonig to work with a strong black woman like myself. Maybe some of these weak females on here are going to think that you’re right, but you aint nothing but a lapdog for white women. You feel like if you say anything bad about your white women that they will all turn away from black men so you have to make sure you come to their defense at all times, so there can be more white wominz for you, dumb asses deserve to be lynched. I have no sympathy for black men anymore. They can dish it but they can’t take it and they want to make us feel so bad about ourselves that we just take any kind of treatment from them, yet we’re supposed to support them and have their back as black women or a part of the community, when they’ve made it clear that there is no community, race doesn’t exist only colorblind love. So why do you consider yourself black instead of other or human? Black women need to move on and have allegiance to those who are loyal to them, black, white, whoever!
@Lala, This message is in response to Lala’s comment but it’s a question for any black man reading this: Whether or not you’re willing to date outside your race would you ever want to be with a woman who speaks about black men this way??(i’m assuming no which only seems to fuel the hatred and anger of a lonely bitter woman like Lala even more.Sad thing is she’s the only one who can stop it and I doubt she ever will)
i think the biggest problem with this issue is that its waaay to focused on US and THEM.
every people except blacks and whites stay together. i think interracial marriage is a lie we dont understand.
have you ever met a half russian half mexican? half chinese/ half indian.
this is because these people dont call themselves by COLOURS and this is the crucial difference between our understanding of each other.
being just a skin tone is not enough to stay together in a relationship. we need a more positive culture in black diasporans as we have sooo much variation within our own cultures that we dont utilise to our advantage.
im ghanian and my girlfriend is jamaican and to me this is my own form of interracial and i would love to see much more of this.
ALSO on another note black americans really need to leave america every once in a while.
the geographical positioning and culture is limiting the vision of us as black people around the world. You are our greatest assets in this battle
Peace
George, 24, London, UK
@George Dickson, I think these are excellent points George. You should write some commentary on this issue. Email me so we can rap, sean.walton@thefreshxpress.com.
jesus christ, shut tha fuck up! it’s 2009, our president is HALF black, yes he is biracial, not 100% black like people like to say. he is the product of a white woman and a black man, get tha fuck over it, you’re all racist and need to move the fuck on!
@Tori
Bitch how the fucc you’re going to come on a black page and accuse us of being racist? It wan’t us that stood up at the Presidential hearing and called our President a liar? Would the white cracker do that to Bush, hell naw, he thinks he can disrespect our President because he’s black. All of your white cavebrothers and sisters are coming out from under their sheets, using the health care issue as a reason to attack our President, it’s quite obvious to most of us blacks why the real reason they’re attracking him. They can’t get him for anything else so they’re using this as an excuse to stir up some shyt. I don’t trust you crackers and I never will, maybe some of these sad sambo niggas are blindly following behind your white wet dog smelling, flat azz behinds, but anything that a white person says, I don’t trust it. Seems like they do a good job of lying, being deceitful, acting like they’re your friends but they’re really just wanting to get you under their control so they can take advantage of you. I don’t trust none of them whiteys. And Barack Obama is just as mixed as any black or white person in this country. Unfortunately most of ours was unwilling and came from white slave masta eyeing the pretty young african queen. But we don’t have to claim that shyt and it’s obvious which side he chose, look at his wife? He don’t want no paleface hooker, now did he?
@George Dick
You are an idiot, if you’re going to use race as a category at least use the ones that actually exist. Black, White and Asian. How can a Black azz African and a Black azz Jamaican be interracial, maybe intercultural, but damn, you’re 24, you should know better. And don’t you dare try to judge we Americans. You Londonians are the worst at self-hatred. I think that it’s even rarer to find 2 blacks together in London. Of course their reason is that they don’t look at color, but I know better that you just don’t want to have black kids or see your reflection in your woman or your kids. You hate your own self. Notice it’s not the majority of white people mixing and matching, but it’s the majority of us. Turn on your tv you will see an abundance of blonde hair and blue eyes and her white suitor chasing after her, but whenever you see a black man, who do they match him up with? A white woman, they (white people) can’t stand the power behind BLACK LOVE. Something about it intimidates them. I think they’re scared that the more we know who we are, the more we love ourselves, we could pose some kind of threat to them. Of course the young people don’t know what’s going on, the young white people just want some black dyck and want to rebel and be different, maybe suffereing from white guilt, or think that you’re cool. You can’t really trust honkeys.
@tiredofracism
I don’t give a fuck what you say, because you’re white and I don’t trust yall. You target black people that are racist but you never hear of your kind on sites geared to white racists like stormfront. I tell you what show me some dialog of yours between a white racist person and then we can talk. Because you’re obviously trying to control black people and trying to tell us that we shouldn’t care about something that every race does, race preservation. I doubt you will find these lilly white palefaces on Asian or Middle Eastern sites telling them that they should not care about color, because those people are united and they will all gang up on the ole faye. But us, we’re so selfish and all about ourself that we don’t have any togetherness and of course these blue eyed devils see that so they think they can program the weak minded ones to think the way they want them too. Well bitch I think whatever the fuck I want and I’m going to spread the word to all of my black people on the computer and in person not to trust yall white azzes. And you know I aint listening to this white cow try to tell me that interracial relationships last the longest because of what they have to endure. Like black couples don’t have their own issues to endure it’s only people from other races that have to go through shyt, self-inflicted really, because they know how unacceptable it still is (whether people admit to it or not, the consensus is that the majority of people prefer for you to stick to your own) so if they want go and cross the tracks that’s on them, they know what’s ahead of them. So if you can’t deal with it, don’t do it. You don’t get an extra cookies for going outside of your race. And please every race has problems and there are couples in all races that marriages have lasted long. My parents have been married for over 35 years. I have yet to meet an interracial couple that has lasted that long. Sorry, it’s usually short-lived because they realize that there are too many differences. White people are too privileged and benefit from being white to really relate to them. We really come from 2 worlds and whites are incapable of understanding our plights unless they actually walked in our shoes. So for some white crackkka trying to tell me how I should feel about anything, can shutdafucup and stop talking to me. Thankyaverymuch. And black boys that would not date me for these feelings I have, who really cares, they are weeds being weeded out, white women can have the slop. I want a man of substance who is proud to be black and loves the womb he came out. I want someone that likes looking at what he sees in the mirror and is loyal to his women and doesn’t put any other woman above her. I really feel superior standing up against white women, I really don’t understand what the attraction is, except that it’s supposedly forbidden. But today anybody can have white owmen, they are the easiest, nastiest, abortion having, no parenting skills, submissive and subservient hoes in the world, so why in my brothas mind is this considered forbidden, I don’t know. It’s harder to get a black woman, so that should show them who’s really worth it, but they’ve got some mental issues, if they think Britney Spears types are better than the Janet Jackson and Gabrielle Union types.
@White People Go To Hell, Satan’s Waiting On You, wow.i’m going to have to take a deep breath,step away from the computer and cool off before responding because i fear my anger will tempt me to resort to name calling,cursing and other negotive things that have little to do with the point im trying to make(also,i don’t want to sound like you).don’t worry comment is on the way.
@White People Go To Hell, Satan’s Waiting On You, wow youre such a ghetto black bitch with no respect … you should come down to nyc maybe ull stop being such a racist bitch. Seriosuly its 2009 grow the funk up. Oh and one more thing. Maybe youre just really fat and ugly but dont be mad at a man for what he is attracted to …. move on and go get yourself a man.
@Tori
If you didn’t see race, how are you noticing that are President is black, no half black?
He can’t help it that white people try to claim they’re so beautiful and above us, but they sho like mixing with our black men and they sho liked raping black women back in the day. Must’ve been pretty attracted to them to rape somebody that wanted nothing to do with them. No they wanted to force black women to like their lil nasty peckerwood azzes. That’s how we’re mixed, and really I know people that the same color or lighter than Barack and 5 generations back they come from 2 black parents. Our genes are like that, we can come out light or dark and just be black, because of what happened in the dark past where white men could just force themselves on any beautiful african queen or princess they wanted. I think some black men want to get payback and want to get with white women because white men raped black women in the past. And please honey please, don’t think that just because a white bitch wants some black dyck that she’s not racist. I’ve talked to a few white women that would check white on the birth certificate of their biracial kids, trying to pass them. I’ve also talked to white women that couldn’t stand black women. Same with black men that will fucc white women because they’re easy, will suck their dyck, probably will suck their azz , white women just nasty as hell, you never know…but there’s some black men that hate white men and they still fucc with a white hoe. Same thing with black women with white men and white men with black women. So really it’s just your choice of who you want to fucc, but it’s not making some big political statement about how you’re not racist because if you really weren’t you could show you weren’t racist without sleeping with somebody outside of your race. But to white people if they can fucc and have black babies they think they’re not racist anymore, their cured. Yeah until they get mad and the N word come out. But to me, the black man that sticks with the white devil deserves everything he gets. He’s already said he’s not black, because he doesn’t see color, so why try to speak on black issues of the black community, when he’s trying to get away with labels. The kneegrow trying to have his cake and eat it too when he needs to choose who’s side he’s on.
href=”#comment-6124″>@White People Go To Hell, Your Daddy Satan’s Waiting On You,
WOW!!!!! How little you know of true history. You know the number of reported rapes of black women by white men in all the years of slavery and the old south was less then five thousand now there were probably more that did not get reported, but compared to the number of white women raped by black men in just one year that number is very small. in 2005 black men raped over 37 thousand white women. that is 7 times the number of white men raping black women in all the years of the old south in just one year.
white men raped black women 0 in 2005. Get your facts straight honey.
And finally to answer the question, if white men do’t care, why should we? White men do care, just as white women do, just as black men care just like us black women. SOme people are better at hiding it. I’ve known of black women saying that when they go out with white male friends how the white girl will be all up in her white male face, being overly friendly, flipping their long, limp lice hair in his face, being all flirty, like the black girl’s not even there. I’ve also heard white women say that a white man was “too hot” for a black women on a few occasions. I’ve also heard of black men saying shyt to a black woman with a white man like “you need to get with a mandigo warrior” or shyt like “sista why you with that whiteboy when you can be with me” or brothas pushing up against white boys trying to start some shyt with them, having the white boy lose his temper and then getting his ass whooped. Also, how many times have you heard of black men dying for white women? Dumb azzes, white men especially in groups don’t like that isht. They will beat a kneegrow’s azz down. And white men pretty much hold all positions of power and make the rules, control everything, I think they don’t like it, but the majority of white women stick with their white men. Especially the money-hungry, gold-digging types. The ones that are supposed to be “Perfect 10′s” with all that plastic surgery, fake boobs, fake blonde hair. These type are not going to a black man that don’t have any money. The only palce you find these types is on the arm of rich black male celebrties. Black men still feel like these blow up dolls are status symbols like a luxury or sports car, big house, and all the other isht that’s supposed to come along with being rich and famous and living it up. So if white men know they have the pick of the litter and that the majority of the ones going to black men are the leftovers, the rejects, the ones they don’t want anyway, why they gonna have a big issue with it? Maybe we as black women should get like that too, but white women put their hoodoo voodoo, whatever they do on black men no matter what status they are. It has a lot to do with brainwashing and being programmed something for so long, it just becomes part of your thinking. I’ve known of many white women who thought they were better than black women because a black man chose to be with them. They seem to think that just because they have long hair, blue eyes or a flat narrow azz, that they’re superior to black women. They think they’re rubbing it in our faces. You should walk in the mall and see the white women look at black women and just put her arm around her man even tighter, not knowing that black men are naturally attracted to black women and he’s probably fucking one on the side. Dumb black women shouldn’t allow black men to have both, but some don’t care, but best believe he’s looking at some black woman’s azz behind your back, if he’s not fucking one already. So really if people are being truthful, the majority of people feel disappointment, some are more desensitized, some are better at hiding it, some are more vocal, as black women tend to be. But just because one if more vocal doesn’t mean the other ones are not feeling the same way, just scared to say it. Especially living in the politically correct world we live in. We all care to a certain extent.
@White People Go To Hell, Your Daddy Satan’s Waiting On You, I’ma pray for you.that’s all i can say.
And look at this black niglet videos…black men trip off this shyt too. And he got the nerve to try to get mad at black women expanding their options because most of them out sniffing after some white meat…I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKd0H9WJCuU
There are Middle Eastern, Asian and, South Asian men also running around that have similar dispositions about women of their own race. If one group is dissatisfied with the mating pool allocated to them by genetics, culture, geo-situational emotions, etc. and another group is dissatisfied with their mating pool with the same characteristics … then it may be time to interchange opportunities.
It is evolutionary when you think about it and the inevitable will happen …
Centuries of all races having kept to their own, why is it in 21 Century America they think that something is just going to change in people where they want to just mix with everybody else? Most people prefer their own, it’s just that the media perpetuates stereotypes and puts one race up on a pedestal and also pushes for certain relationships over others, so people who are impressionable will start to behave how they think they should, the way the media says is what is “in” or what is beautiful and what is “love”. No one believes this nignorance more than blacks and it’s ridiculous. Black people have a distinct and unique experience in Amerikkka and that is why we relate better to our own. BTW I believe in Creationism, not some white crakkka evolution science bullisht like we evolved from fished and monkey, maybe YOU did, but I didn’t. The Bible has been around longer than these scientific theories and guess what, I believe what the Bible says, it says that God created man and woman. Not monkeys or fishes or the big bang. I also believe that before the world is all mixed and matched (GOD FORBID!) the world would’ve ended by then. I think Blacks will be the only ones that believed the okie doke and will become Latino. The overwhelming majority of white men still like their blonde headed blued eyed blow up dolls. And the majority of white women still like their lil short dyck peckerwoods. So that will never happen. Sorry to disappoint you.
@White People Go To Hell, Your Daddy Satan’s Waiting On You, LOL you are off the hook.
@White People Go To Hell, Your Daddy Satan’s Waiting On You,
I agree with you that Black people have a distinct and unique experience in America and thats what makes it generally easier to relate to eachother. But I find it interesting that: 1. you believe Creationism, a Christian bible theory. Christianity/Creationism was largely a ‘white’ religion perpetrated by White Colonialist as they invaded and exploited Africa and the Americas. Christianity was, in my opinion, yet another strategy of ‘hoodwinking and bamboozling’.
2. Since you apparently DO subscribe to Bible principles, you would put a title like “White people go to hell, Your Daddy Satan’s Waiting on you”. You might wanna re-read that text. The title did make me laugh though! lol
That is why you really don’t see many white men complain. Because they believe that their women is the most desirable woman especially among non white males. White women or women with that resemble white skin are considered the gold standard, and it has been long believed that most black men have this uncontrollable desire to have a white woman. And it is true…..is it ironic that the more money or successful a black man becomes, the more likely he will marry a non black woman?? Another black man finally bites the dust to a non black woman……Name: Micheal Jordan. Color matters in relationships, and the reason is simply because the darker one’s skin is, the odds decreases his/her success significantly. Therefore, black men find mating with non black women more appealing because they will produce light skinned offspring who will be more accepting to today’s society
Real talk
I agree with white men believing their women is the most desirable but guess what, that would not be the case if black men rejected these beliefs, but of course whatever massa say is truth, must be the truth. No other race of man puts another of women on a pedestal over their own. Black men have been severely mind fucked and it’s to the point that I don’t think some of them can be saved. Not all, because I know some good brothers that are with the sistas to the end, they might like some white meat, taco bean dip or kimchi every once in awhile but they make it clear who their first choice is, a sista. But for the most part, you ask any black man who their ideal women would be (light skinned, long REAL hair, thick but only in the right place, in other words, slim but with big tits, ass and thighs, like who the fucc is made like that? Jessica Rabbit a cartoon or airbrushed video hoe in a magazine) and guess what she’s not anything close to how an authentic black women would look. And when I say authentic, I’m talking about closer to looking pure black. Whereas if you ask a white man he’s going to name some woman that looks closer to being an authentic white woman (white, blonde hair, blue eyes and slender) as his ideal woman. And that’s okay, that’s what he’s supposed to like. I do believe that some white men and other men have been programmed and brainwashed to think of the ideal beauty as a blonde barbie doll. It’s a societal pressure put on men that other men respect them more if they have the big house, the nice cars, the high-paying career and the “hot chick” on his arm. It’s a dude thing because I swear I don’t understand what the appeal of a plain paleface with no azz. Yet you see a lot of black male celebs with them. The only thing I don’t agree with is that black man has a long believed uncontrollable lust for white women naturally. It could be opposites attract, it could be that when something is ingrained in you from when you barely talk all the way up until adulthood, that’s what you start accepting and believing as truth. Look at commercials, look at tv, look at magazines, look at movies who is shoved down our throat as the ideal of beautiful? Now me, even as a kid, I was taught we were all equal by my parents. BUT I always preferred playing with my dark skinned barbie dolls. I remember they came out with some Shani barbie dolls and I begged my mom and pops for them. I had Nichelle she was the a licorice color and she had the full features that I liked in my dolls. At first, I found myself cringing like hmmm she’s kinna odd but I realized at a young age that even though I loved my black dolls, something in me, still looked at her features and felt a small tinge of disgust. Now why was I an 8-10 year old feeling this way about dolls that had the same features as me? Brainwashing and attributing these features as ugly. But I made myself deprogram that bullshyt because that’s what it is BS that many people are not lucky enough to be able to catch. Instead they end up just accepting that full features are ugly and they subconsciously pass the shyt down to the next generation. So it’s things like that and hearing your mama say “boy you need to comb that nasty nappy stuff”, again when you’re young you have to work on picking up what is inferred, so when someone says nasty and nappy, in the same sentence, you know it’s bad. Like I said, it’s not white people all the time, yeah they shove their ideals in our face but we don’t have to accept them, we could turn the tv off, learn our own history by reading history books about US instead of THEM and learning how great we are when we have knowledge of self and being able to challenge them instead of just going with the flow. Knowledge is power and as long as we have our young black sons looking up to basketball and football players and rappers, and not having a father in their life to show them how to be a man, they’re just going to rely on tv to raise them and show them how to relate to a woman and what type of woman is a “dime” (which is so objectifying and what, the smallest and one of the most insignificant coins. I know it’s supposed to be a perfect 10 but still…). What is it now? If you’re not a video model the young men aint checking for you and what’s sad is that these idiots rather wife a hoe than a good woman. Look at who they get with? Amber Rose, Kim Kardashian, Khloe Kardashian, Karinne Superhead Steffans, Tila Tequila, Coco (the white implanted azz hoe with Ice T), Gloria Velez, etc…Michael Jordan was a playboi for life and I knew this back in the day from sources that would speak on his philandering issues. You’re right black men are some of the worst colorist/racist/prejudiced people and beauty is not in the eye of the beholder, it’s in the eye of society. I don’t understand why people automatically assume mixed or light skinned people will automatically be fine or cute, some of the ugliest kids and people I’ve seen have been biracial or light skinned and some of the cutest lil chocolate cutie pies. Such is life, people are just ignorant and for them it’s bliss, especially black men until they get racially profiled, wrongly convicted or have to go through police brutality. They want us to be all sensitive to their plight as a black man, but they want to act like our issues are minut and unimportant or all in our head. That’s why the Black Panther movement didn’t last for too long. Black women figured out that shyt, that black men are not really for the people, they are for black men. I don’t think there is a black community because what good is it if you can’t get everybody on the same page. You got the black man trying to find their manhood by conquering as many draws of the rainbow as they can. Such easily bruised and broken egos that if they get done grimey by a few black women, they’re ready to leave them all behind and painting all of us in a broad stroke as “evil”, “obnoxious”, “ghetto”, “mean” but when they treat us like shyt, they bout ready to go slit their wrist. They want to rule over us as women and want us to be submissive and let them lead and be the head of the household, yet they’re not making any money, lazy sitting at home playing video games, don’t want to compete against white men in academics or jobs, no ambition just pity parties and playing the victim and we’re supposed to care if white women want them or they don’t want us and they want white women? Naw, you can’t do anything for me, go on and stick your HIV/AIDS dyck in any hoe you want and let them get HERPES in their mouth and AZZ because you know white women some nasty freaky bishes.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN………..this is the answer…………………..”White People Go to Hell, Your Daddy Satan’s Waiting On You” is the EXACT reason why [many, not all] black men would never want to be with a black women. She is the reason many black men have such bad things to say about black women all the time. It is a fact that Negative impressions weigh much heavier than positive impressions…therefore…we only hear the bad things about black men (i.e. “oh dey no goood” “he aint nuthin but a check” “i dont need a man, im my OWNNN mannn”) coming from black women and then we only hear the bad things about black women (“dat girl iz a hoe” “dat girl is angry as hell” “she aint nuthin but some quick ass” “she only my baby mama”………..I am not against interracial marriage/dating/sex AT ALL….i understand that some people want to preserve there race and this is fine as long as the reasons are not anything like “Niggers are inferior” or “Whites did so much harm to us”…..to sum it up…i am more for preserving CULTURE & TRADITIONS, and the ETHNICITY that comes with those rather than purely preserving a race….at the same time..i am against those that feel they must marry outside their race to get out of any situation they may deem as “a problem ONLY with that race”…when it comes down to it….marry who the hell you want, and stop being racist to those who marry out of their race….just like not all black people are uneducated, not all white people are educated……not all black people are “ghetto” and not all white people are “proper”….not all black men are “well-endowed” and not all white man are “small”….get……over…this…..shit………………………………………..it….is…2009……..
The bottom line…No the reason why black men would not want to be with a black woman is because they don’t want to be with a black woman. They can come up with all kinds of excuses to justify their reasoning but when it all comes down to it, no one is the cause for you dating and being with who you’re going to be with, but yo DAMN SELF!!!!! That’s like me saying, black men are the reason for me being a lesbian. No, the reason why a woman or man would be gay is because that’s what they choose to be. I’m so sick of lame azz niglets always trying to put the blame on everybody but themselves. As I said before, the weak and inferior minded allow one or two bad experiences to shape their world view of all people of a certain group. If I were a white woman saying what I said, I bet if you really wanted to date a white woman, you would still do it. It’s only black women that don’t get a pass. I don’t need one from you because guess what I’m grown and I can say whatever the hell I want to say. I guess men like you are the reason I don’t date Uncle Toms, whoops. Negative impressions for you weigh more heavily then positive impressions. I guess that shows what kind of person you are, negative. The reason why black men have such bad things to say about black women is not because of strong black women like myself. It’s because they are looking for something to excuse them not wanting to be with black women. This is the reason why I no longer have sympathy for black men that experience discrimination and racism in this world, because they sometimes bring it on themselves and other times, it’s karma because they are racist themselves. What goes around comes around. They want for black women to support them no matter what, and we’re supposed to be the backbone, but ladies you better get wise, because they gonna step all on your back and break some bones to get to a white woman. It’s real pathetic and that’s why if a black man doesn’t want to date me, I would be fine with that, because most have a fucked up slave mentality anyway. Hmmm what’s massa doing? I want to be just like massa, let massa stroke his head like the good lil lapdog he is. It’s obvious this dingleberry hair has some resentment against black women by the way he typed how he interprets black women speaking. Disgusting, white women can have his azz all day and night for all I care. He aint no brother of mines. I know you’re not against fornication, because obviously some people are amoral creatures that need to be with other amoral creatures. If you hanging around whoremongers that think all black women are whores, quick pieces of azz or angry all of the time, I guess that must say something about your taste in friends, women and where you’re from. Get out the ghetto and stop being low-class and hanging around low-class people. I can’t help that you live in the ghetto. People there are disenfranchised and grow up without two parent homes, are uneducated and not taught how to conduct themselves like ladies and gentleman. It’s not their fault that the good for nothing dead beat father left them alone and now they don’t know how to relate to women or men properly. Blame that one on your lazy, self-hating, irresponsible brothers. So I guess we as black women can assume that all black men are irresponsible deadbeats. Guess what? Black women are not dating black men exclusively either, so if you’re not wanting them, there is somebody for everybody and you can be weeded out and go and be with who you want. I’m not gonna ever be one of those chicks because I’m not attracted to white men, but it will eventually happen since the numbers of single black women supposedly don’t match the numbers of single black men. And why does it matter to you why someone wants to preserve their race and how will you ever know what people’s reasons are for being for who they want to be with unless they tell you? If you’re more for preserving culture and ethnicity then you are not BLACK and that’s the end. You are Caribbean or Jamaican, so why are you speaking on the issue? When it comes down to it people WILL marry who they want and they don’t need permission from me or you to do so, but just like people talk about fat people, handicapped people, ugly people, people will talk about interracial couples so the people involved need to GET OVER THAT…because it looks odd and mix-matched and people are going to talk, so if it’s about love, it will last and it will be able to conquer that obstacle of opposition. God puts everything to a test to see what is real or not. So if you can’t deal with people talking about you, making “rude comments”, (I call it speaking my mind), or staring and heckling at you, then don’t do it. Because just like you have to choice to be with who you want, I have the choice to disapprove of it (whether you think I’m wrong or right or racist, your opinion is just as valid as mines) So get used to this shit….in 2009…Thanks
Black men are just as racist, prejudiced and discriminatory as other races. What is the difference from a white person saying they don’t like all black people because he thinks that they’re all lazy, want a handout, on welfare, career criminals, prostitutes, kill off their own, etc? Sound familiar, it should because you just said the same thing but just because you’re black and the person you hate is black too, you think that it’s not racism, yeah baby it’s intraracism and it exists. So you are just as bad and what goes around comes around. Sometimes I think black men pass out these stereotypes of black women because they want somebody to dump on and feel like they’re above someone on the “social ladder” because it’s believed that all races consider black people at the bottom of the totem pole, which is all in their head of course and how they were brought up. But black men are frustrated and really it’s all self-inflected because they can be happy and not miserable if they stop playing victims and seeing the white man as his enemy and the white woman as his saviour, but these monkeys see and monkey do. Ignorant sons of whores, somebody’s momma didn’t raise them right for them to judge their own women so harshly while allowing other women to get free passes when they fuck up. And black men don’t try to act like your shyt don’t stink. Reality is that, because you are a man you will have more dating options and because women are not visual and look for men that make them feel good over who they think looks good. A woman is much more capable of overlooking someone she is not attracted to, than a man is, so that is why there are more options. You have the rejects from the white race, the women that know that black men regard them as preferred and put them on a pedestal in the Latino race and you have the ones looking for a greencard in the Asian race so that’s why you have so much more options than black women. But don’t flatter yourself, the majority of white, Latin and Asian women DO NOT WANT YOUR BLACK MONKEY AZZ and more than the majority of white, Latin and Asian men want black women, so get over conceited, arrogant asses already. You only get the rejects and the women that know you will treat them like royalty because hell, let them tell it, you should be glad that they even want your gorillas in the mist monkey azz. Has anybody noticed how black men stick around when they have biracial kids and how they bail when they have black kids? Some of that shyt again, black men HATE THEMSELVES but they want to make it our issue and think they gonna control us. If you don’t be submissive, let me be the head of the household, let me be a male hoe, let me be lazy, let me be a victim than I’m a leave you foe a white wominz…well mufucka get the hell on, what you waiting for. Let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Peace.
I have been in an interracial relationship for two years now. My boyfriend is originally from jamaica, and i was born in europe, in Romania. We are very different. I am sharing this story to just simply explain how love has no color. We are in year 2009 , and I personally believe that the only rason why so many horrible comments have been made is because of the media. The media advertises different races in different ways. For example if youre a black woman, supposedly you are confident and like to be in control. and they say that white women like to be submissive. As well they claim black men have the biggest penises.. (yeah okaay)… Anyways we have to realize that no matter where you are from you will ave a variety of different women. Some may be bitchy, some normal. I have been with my boyfriend for two years, and we live in NYC. At times when i go to brooklyn i get few stares, but thats mostly because i look good. But anyways , i believe that most people do not even care anymore. But i can understand why the black woman would be upset. When i see a white guy with an asian girl, i am like wow all the asian women are taking all the white guys. Like how some black women claim that white women are taking the good black men. Well the asian women are stealing the good white men., Its a domino effect there will never be equality, and in the end, its all about survival. We just need to find happiness and start looking beyond the whole black and white thing… Lets all see the big picture and realize that love has no colors
Hi Maria, were you born in the States? There’s a big difference in the perspective of race from people born in the States and those born/raised abroad. I agreed with almost everything you said, except the part, where you said most people don’t care. The reality is most people don’t care enough to be vocal about it, but as far as white people wanting their families to become mixed, instead of blonde hair and blue eyed, hell no, they don’t want that to ever happen. As long as it’s not an immediate threat to their “whiteness”, which defined in America, the purer you are, the better. Even though as Chris Rock puts it there’s a lot of dye bottle blondes who aint no where near being pure anything. Until the media represents all races equally, people will always care about race and stereotype people. You just read a man that claims he is black stereotypes black women (his own women) by saying they were quick pieces of ass. When you have your own race of men saying this, you know that we are far from being equal. And the reality is, if not for media brainwashing and programming and seeing images all day and all night of what is considered beautiful, it’s very unlikely that your Jamaican boyfriend would even be with you. I can’t say that anybody in a “colorblind” relationships is in it for love at all. I hear so many men say that they’re with white women because they are easy, give them money, pay their bills, don’t give them lip, easier to please, freakier in bed. So I doubt that everytime a black man is with someone of another race, it’s because of love. They too dumb to realize that maybe they’re just a buck or mandingo lover. Maybe white girl wants to piss her family off, wants attention, has white guilt, wants to be cool or is curious about the sexual prowess of a black man. They’re being jsut as used by the women they think they’re using. Men are very stupid, they allow the trends or what the majority says to be “in” or beautiful decide to them who they should be with. Do you think any of these Uncle Toms would date a black woman that looks like Alek Wek (the African model) full features, licorice kissed skin, tall and lanky. I would think it was real love if I saw black men with more women that look like her. Do you think they would date an Iman? Of course, thin features, brown sugar skin, still tall but curvy. You even hear black men say that they love African women, but the ones they dote about are usually from northeast Africa, not west Africa, you know the Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somalians…Black men are the worst racists, we accept their broad features and their dark skin, but they don’t accept ours. I swear if you were watching BET all day, you would think that all the black women are mixed,but have to wonder why all the black men look like that “give us free” ugly dude. It doesn’t matter if people mix and match the whole race away, guess what, as long as the seed has been implanted of white superiority, colonialism, it’s not going to go anywhere. My race is African American and we are dark, light and medium colors but we are still divided and there’s a lot of colorism, especially coming from black men. Look at entertainers, athletes, rappers. Do you see them with women that are brown skinned and have features like them? HELL NO! I was surprised that NFL football player that got killed by that white girl, that he was with a black woman. See, how they start off black and then once they get a lil money they think they have to go get them some white meat? O.J Simpson started off with a black wife, Quincy Jones, Don Cornelius (soul train), OMG I could go on and on…Black men are the biggest racist and don’t let that Alek Wek female they’re not even attracted to, go date a white boy. OMG she becomes a sellout and his “sister” then…Like wtf?? You don’t even want her? They know that the more it catches on, the less they will have their harem of black women to go to and abuse. I guess it’s similar to why you are even concerned with Asian women with white men, when you are not with a white man yourself. And at least your white man has put you up on a pedestal in the media to where most people accept that to have a white woman (European descent) is to have the ultimate prize. Again, I don’t get why flat azzes, carrot noses, long stringly lice hair, and pale raw chicken looking skin is supposed to be some trophy, but how you gonna reason with ignorance and brainwashing? You won’t hear your white men talking about in their music how white women are hoes, and to clap their flat azzes for them, or saying some shyt about wanting to eff every girl in the world. I think black men are the reason our race is so behind and viewed as so ghetto. But of course they will always play the victim and always shift the blame to a black woman some way or another instead of taking responsibility like a man’s supposed to do. Pathetic lot we have…If they can’t get their way, we as black women become, bitches, hoes, emasculating, obnoxious, and it in turn, makes other races of men see us like that and then they’re not interested in us. Black men run the hip hop community and that’s the one little thing they have full control over and they use their platform to keep women at bay, at least the chickenhead types, because women like Oprah that got their shyt together, are not hypnotized by a “good beat” A lot of the appeal of black men has to come from the black women lifting him up and a lot of appeal of the white women has to come from the white men lifting them up. White women also have a lot of control in advertising so they look out for themselves. Just imagine if most black women with power starting stereotyping all black men the way they’ve done us. Black men are weak lil babies, they couldn’t handle it. And black women are tired of having to play second fiddle to other races. Is their a black community or not? If not, then don’t try to bring it up when it’s convenient, when you are discriminated against, getting your azz beat by the cops or being racially profiled. If we’re not supposed to see color, then I aint gonna see it all, not when it benefits them. Don’t be crying to black women to stand up with you, you hate them until you need them. I’m not going to care anymore for their issues because he’s black just because I’m the same color skin. Just let me know and I will gladly forget that we’re supposed to stick together and have a collective voice. If everybody is an individualist and only out for themselves, that’s how I’m gonna be too. Sometimes I think segregation was a good thing.
@Lala, you are very racist………….
And my boyfirend actually helps me and he is taking care of me. You are so wrong and you jump to conslusions to fast/ Not everything is the stereotype of what it is. The main stereotype that is the white woman who takes care of the black man bull shiiit. My boyfriend takes care of me to the fullest and he provides for me . So for you to make such a comment i can see that you dont have an open mind. I dont want black women to stand up with me sweety I can do it on my own. I dont need any woman or anything next to me. So what are u talking about?? I have myself and i have love. I personally believe that you must be very ugly inside and out and have not yet found a man . So therefore you are jealous at the women who do have men.And please remeber one more thing, there is no such thing as pure white as there is no such thing as pure black. We are all a mix.
Of course, white women think they are superior to other races of women and that the only reasons someone can disagree with interracial relationships is if they’re ugly. Typical white people bullisht. Come again, sweetheart. Stereotypes of white women are coming from black men. I know all kinds of black men and guess what, they’re dating you for free freaky sex and to get bills paid. This is what THEY say, not me. I’m not the one dating you, I’m not the one wanting raw chicken. And do you think by calling me racist that’s going to change how I feel. I don’t give a shyt of what white women’s opinion of me is. Your white privilege must’ve gone to your head. “How dare! A black woman question me”. Bitch sit down somewhere. When you have an open mind, your brain keeps falling out, remember that. If he loved you, then he would marry you. If he doesn’t then he just milking the cow. Bitch, I have so many niglets, white men and hispanic men after me, if I wanted one, I could have one. I have standards and I’m a lot more picky than you are. Ya know when you look good, you have more options, you don’t have to settle for the first thing that comes alone, like you and your shucking and jiving, bucking his bloodshot eyes NIG. Go girl and get your AIDS and HIV. I ain’t hating, that is, if you don’t already have it!!! WHOOPS! Bitch there is pure black and pure white. Have you not seen the countries in Africa? Have you not seen the countries in Europe. Purity still exists, America slave masters raped the beautiful African queens and princesses so that’s why we are all mixed up. Not anything that we should be proud of. Maybe you would be proud for us that your ancestors raped my people, but now men are choosing women that would’ve had them lynched not even 50 years ago. The ONLY reason your man is with you is because he has mental illness and thinks that somehow someway your skin color makes him feel like more of a man. You and your buck are the last thing on my mind. Remember you’re the one that brought up here on a site that asks “if white men don’t care, why should we?” meaning WE=BLACK WOMEN. Not you. Of course all yall cave dwellers are so self-absorbed and used to be the center of attention, you always have to turn it around to be about you. But I don’t care bitch, your niggas don’t take from my pool, because I want a black man that only wants black women. So why I’m worried about that rotten tomato, have all of “those types” you want…He probably ugly anyway….bwahaha Wesley Snipes anybody??? LOL
Maria, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I personally think that interracial dating is perfectly fine..All of my family done it whether they were supposed to or not..You can help who you love.If you ask God to send you a soul mate can you help it if that soulmate happens to be another race.There is NOTHING wrong with interracial dating..
I don’t think God has anything to do with interracial dating. God is going to send us what we need, most of the time it’s someone that is not conventionally beautiful but someone that is virtuous and most black men are not dating virtuous women period, so please don’t put his on God, he don’t have anything to do with it it. He gives us all choices, people CHOOSE who they want to date and most black men are CHOOSING women that are not black, because they are lazy and want someone that will make their life easier, instead of pushing them to have some ambition and be a REAL man. I think white women enable black men to just feel sorry for themselves all the time. Anyway, GOD wants people to get married, not date and sleep around, again don’t put this on God. If God wanted everybody to be mixed up, he wouldn’t have created black people to look and be different from other people. I think God likes having all colors of the rainbow, it’s a shame that MANmade bullisht is trying to create some other races, mixing them altogether and making everybody one race. That show me right there that racism aint died if people are trying to mix the races to get rid of the black race. They can’t stand our licorice black skin and our full juicy lips (yet they like to emulate Angeline Jolie), they don’t like our broad nostrils and our wide hips, thick thighs and round booty (yet they want to emulate Kim Kardashian and J-Lo)…People can help who they fall in love with, that’s some white people bullisht too. Are you a pedofile, are you a lesbian, are you a person that sleeps with dogs, okay, well if you’re not, you can help who you fall in love with, stop that stupid nonsense.
Why are white people always sneaking in on black discussions? Always got to be the center of attention, I don’t care about what yall think. The question was if white men don’t care, why should we? We meaning black women? But of course, white people can’t help but be nosy, they follow wherever and whatever black people go or do, I’m a start ignoring them in a lil bit…And the black dudes the same way, nobody talking to them but they always got to be snooping in on black women’s issues, funny shyt…
@Lala, And one more thing……… I dont know if ur from NYC like I am but if you are, then thats even more sad.That means that you are a pretender when you are around white people. And if you hate white people so much, what i suggest is to then move all the way to Africa where there will be no white people,so you can be at ease and live peacefully.
@Maria, There are plenty of white poeple in Africa…just not a lot.
No need to pretend, I don’t hang with white people, but they sure try to always get in our sister circles. They love being around black women, and want to swagga jack because they know how 2-faced their own white women are. We just give them the look like “dismissed” but they still wanna hang around. LOL I’m not going anywhere, it was my ancestor’s blood, sweat and tears that built this country. And white people are going to have to accept that they can’t hypnotize everybody and have everybody believe that they are superior to everybody else. People gonna call out bullshyt where they see it. If you don’t like it, maybe you need to go back to Romania. I mean you already said that you were brought up there, so who are you to tell somebody what they need to do in THEIR country. Again, this is NOT ABOUT YOU. This is about BLACK WOMEN.
u act like u own the website and whitepeople nosy, ohh pleasee u racist dumb bitch
“or is it because we feel personally rejected when the star athlete or Columbia business school graduate chooses to scoop up the first white woman he sees rather than find an educated African American female counterpart to build a home with?” That phrase totally implies that black men don’t care what kind of white woman they date. Isn’t that wrong to just assume that for him, his white wife/girlfriend is a trophy or a token instead of a real woman he really cares for?
Furthermore, why do I need ‘black men’ as a group to validate my black beauty by choosing a black woman? I’d much rather see Seal and Heidi Klum stay together forever than for him to pick a black woman who he isn’t so deeply in love with and break up with her.
Chris Rock said it best that black men DON’T CARE what women they date, all they’re concerned about is ASS. Black men have lowered standards in white women. Look around and you will see a black man and a white woman on 2 different attractiveness levels. The white woman will be plain, obese, missing teeth, not very well-dressed; and the black man will be decent looking, not fine, not ugly. How many times have I seen black men with black women that were to’e up from the flo’ up like that? NEVER. If a black woman is big, she always dresses her ass off. I’ve seen black men with some large ladies but they’re always well-kept and still very attractive looking. But these white cows, oh my God, it’s like, “now if that was a sista, there would be no way”… If you haven’t noticed there are not any other races of men disproportionately marrying women outside of their race? Why because they believe that standard of beauty to be as close to white as possible. Do I believe this – no? Black men try to fit in and assimilate to the dominant culture. They feel like by getting a white woman on their arm, it makes them fit in better. They feel like having the big house and the nice cars is not enough, they must have the whole package, which is the non-white black woman that shows other people that “I’ve arrived”. Sorry but this is not hard to understand unless you’re not black. It has been ingrained in blacks since they were little kids through all kinds of media outlets. So thank the media for black men’s obsession with you. It is not about a black man validating black woman’s beauty, it’s about community and sticking together. There is power in numbers. United we stand, divided we fall. Every race recognizes this but blacks. Black men are sending the message to society that they have accepted white women as the standard of beauty too. And please lady, all that Hollywood Smallywood bullshyt is fake. Don’t try to base real love on anything that you see on tv. You don’t know what kinna bullisht goes on behind the camera. Those Hollyweird people are actors and attention whores so if you want to be an idiot and believe all that shyt to be real, then I guess that’s your prerogative, but don’t expect the rest of us to believe that bullisht is real. It’s all about IMAGE. That’s why in Hollywood you hardly see any celebrity with anyone that is not “stunning” (of course defined by media standards). The media influences society’s opinion of people and when a black man constantly chooses women that are not part of his race group, young black men see this and they don’t have a paternal role model in their life (most of the time) so they start to looking up to these entertainers and next thing you know, they’re looking over all of the lil black girls in school, because she’s not good enough. This is only something that people that are not black women will ever understand. So don’t try to tell black women how to feel, unless you’ve walked in their shoes. It’s like white people telling black people that racism is all in our heads. They’re so used to not having to think about race and it doesn’t affect their lives, so they can’t possibly relate to someone who does experience subtle and covert racism on the daily. So if you ain’t black, sorry you’re not going to understand. Black men are not going to understand it either, because even if they’re not interested in white women, they’re still going to see white women’s interest in them as flattering, and not going to have a huge issue with it. This is a black woman’s issue, and telling all your stories of interracial love, is not going to change that black men’s mind have been poisoned by white people and the media on how much they value the black woman and this needs to change for the sake of the future generation.
Any white woman fucking with a nigga is tainted and no good for me
any more .I do not want to touch her since she is diseased.
And i do not want to fuck with a black girls either, they are nasty.
Stay within your race people, if you want to survive.
diseased? hmm on all of the GIRLS GONE WILD VIDEOS I ONLY SEE WHITE GIRLS-nasty black girls huh? Listen why dont u just grow a dick? All of those penis enlargement products were made to help your tiny white dick-no one wants ur 2 inches-so get the hell off of a black page since ur so racist. dont call black people diseased-white people always have ringworms and lice in their hair, and smell like wet dogs when it rains outside. I’ll stay within my race because truthfully white men arent known for having much size where it counts..
Whatever Nasrallah, you come across like a typical Muslim hypocrite that sleeps around with anything that walks on two limbs. …Yet have the nerve to judge black men and black women. Man shutup- and get rid of the women you keep captive in your harem. Then get back with us-you idiot! I do not think all Muslim men are like this but if the shoe fits..wear it! BTW, it ain’t that many black women checking out whatever group you affiliated with so calm the freak down, shut the heck up, and maybe consider going somewhere else where your opinion actually contributes to the conversation!
WTF This is supposed to be for BLACK PEOPLE. THE PULSE OF YOUNG BLACK AMERICA, Where the hell all these cavedwellas come from? Can’t stand for us to have anything, all this talk about black women trying to imitate white women and black people wanting to be white, it sho is the white people following us around at work, school, and on the internet. BLACKPLANET supposed to be for BLACK people, who follows us, white raw chicken bitches. In our forums when we’re talking about OUR issues, who follows us, white people??? Nosy and always wants to emulate us, in how we dance, sing, attitude, how we carry ourselves, what we wear, how we look (lips, breasts, skin color), okay lizard skin faces, I’ve had enough. I don’t get off of work and school to have to talk to white people on the internet. This is supposed to be our time where we can talk amongst ourselves but as always the white person must be THE CENTER OF ATTENTION, like people want to have to be around them all day. Go away already. Damn, I can’t take it. I’ll be on the whitewomesuck blog archives, until then. If you white, you are ignored from this point forward. I want to see responses from REAL black women, not white women pretending to be black women. We know our own…My I.Q. is far too high to be engaging in discussions with obvious idiots. Bye crackkkas.
What is trippin me out is how people keep mentioning that Black men say, Black women have too much attitude, or Black women are too bitter, or White women know how to treat a brotha. Now, these might be overgeneralizations, AND a reflection of the type of women that a particular brotha has dealt with, but can anybody (Black women) admit to themselves that if ALL these brothas are saying the same thing, that MAYBE, just maybe there might be some truth to it???
Does it SUCK to hear it, yeah, do you want to believe those things about yourself, no, but you may just need to face up to the reality that some of those things ARE true, because enough Black men are having that experience with Black women that they aren’t just dating Betty Boop, they are MARRYING her, and the numbers grow every year!
Think about how many young black MARRIED couples you see, and then think about how many young couples comprised of Black men and White women you see who are out together and married, and have kids. I know we get looks of surprised when people see me AND my Black husband out with our two children. All im saying is, sometimes you dont need to look very far to see where the problem start.
WTF This is supposed to be for WHITE PEOPLE. THE PULSE OF YOUNG WHITE AMERICA, Where the hell all these slaves come from? Can’t stand for us to have anything, all this talk about white women trying to imitate black women and white people wanting to be black, it sho is the black people following us around at work, school, and on the internet. WHITEPLANET supposed to be for WHITE people, who follows us, dirty smelly negro bitches. In our forums when we’re talking about OUR issues, who follows us, black people??? Nosy and always wants to emulate us, in how we dance, sing, attitude, how we carry ourselves, what we wear, how we look (lips, breasts, skin color), okay dude looking faces, I’ve had enough. I don’t get off of work and school to have to talk to black people on the internet. This is supposed to be our time where we can talk amongst ourselves but as always the black person must be THE CENTER OF ATTENTION, like people want to have to be around them all day. Go away already. Damn, I can’t take it. I’ll be on the blackwomedon’tsuckd**k blog archives, until then. If you black, you are ignored from this point forward. I want to see responses from REAL white women, not black women pretending to be white women. We know our own…My I.Q. is far too high to be engaging in discussions with obvious idiots. Bye niggers**
This raw chicken bitch wants to hear what other WOMEN, have to say, because they have experienced different things, & I would like to learn from people who have lived differently, so that when I spend time with my BLACK man’s (huge) family with such strong women, we will understand a little better why SOME of those women have some sort of deep issue with ME when all I bring into the equation personally is the happiness that I fell in love with someone who is warm & caring & sweet & treats me like a PRINCESS (only because I act like one oh yes I do it’s fun please try it just once) after 29 years of enduring cold, selfish, overly materialistic men? & I for one, don’t get walked on for real, but I do play it smart, as I play it with ANY man, I pick my battles. If I made EVERYthing a battle for him, it would instantly kill the part of his heart (albeit however small lol) that desires to end his “LIFE” as he knows it, & get married, and support a family emotionally, financially, whatever. & that, ladies, gets you no where at all. If you see a beautiful white woman with a hot black man, please know that know matter what you think you see, no matter what they tell YOU to not hurt your feelings, the man is giving way more than he is receiving because we are PRINCESSES never forget! But, all I found out on this board is that the ones who react so negatively to me feel that black men OWE them something when no one on this earth OWES anyone anything. If you feel that it is the duty of the black race to stick together and stay strong, to the point of going after anyone different from you, you need to take that shit somewhere else. This be the melting pot. Yes, I am sorry that greedy white men brought all of your ancestors here against their will & considered them property. It’s evil, pure evil. As much evil is in the world, there is an absolute equal amount of good. Whichever you focus on, you get.
**Paraphrasing Lala’s comment earlier….just wanted to see how that would sound. Not too good for some reason (sarcasm)
those were very racist remarks, taylor cakes-if we were face 2 face and u called me a smelly negro i know i would be in jail right now, even though i am a peaceful person. I would knock you into next week. I grew up in the suburbs, I’m educated, I don’t speak in ebonics-just as there are ignorant black people there are ignorant white people, and your post proves it. I am a princess as well sweetheart-so don’t put everyone in the same category and stereotype. i happen to own my own business, I do not sit and follow anyone around, white or black. i am not reacting negatively to you out of spite or jealousy-i could care less what people do in their personal lives. People are reacting poorly towards you because you are an arrogant stupid BITCH and your words sound like someone that just came out of a TRAILER PARK. And for you to insinuate that your IQ is higher than mine, I seriously doubt it. Be careful of your stereotypes. I doubt you are smarter than Oprah Winfrey or Michelle Obama,since you make a reference to IQ and color at the same time. “this be the melting pot”? OMG real high IQ you dumb, ignorant bitch. One thing your man should buy you, (whether he’s black or white, is CLASS. Learn how to spell and use proper grammar-I don’t care what color you are-you need to quit accusing people of being jealous of you-they are probably giving you wierd looks because you are AN ILLITERATE SLUT
I find it to be so sad that many Black men and Women fail to see the goal of all this interracial
relationship promotion. Interracial relationships is just another form of destroying the black race period.! The faster black people in the Ghetto and suburbs realize this fact the better.
I tend to seem more and more black females accepting white men and interracial relationships at a very disportionate rate , when compared to black men. Black women must
realize that they are the mothers of the black race!.Whith out them , the race will become extinct. Blacks must realize that this plot to destroy the black race has been going on since slavery. So , nomater how much some of you brainwashed black men and females try
to sugar coat interracial relationships, it all still boils down to the destrcution of the black race.
Blacks in America must realize that interracial relationships, will ultimatly leed to our extinction.
Stay Black.
I question the ulterior motives behind this too. I don’t care about some couples. I know there are some genuine couples but I do not think this should be the norm either. Other groups do stuff to look out for themselves and promote self preservation-why shouldn’t we.
As for whites not being against racial intermarriage, I disagree. Some just pretend and others lash out with dumb/dangerous/violent actions. But even if they are not, they have the luxury to be cavalier right now. They do not have to worry about the repercussions as much because they outnumber us five to one. We do not have that luxury! We sometimes have reasons to question this!
To those who complain about whites coming onto a black forum…..maybe they will when you stop obssessing about the white race all the time. And on this topic, of course white men care less about interracial dating than black women, because there is no shortage of options for them. White men date interracially more than anyone….just not with black women.
At the same time this is a black forum. Blacks have a right to say what they want to say and if others don’t like it, they just don’t. The tone and delivery is kinda tough sometimes, but then that’s how posters sometimes respond to blogs-very strongly;and, blog ain’t grad school, no one is writing a dissertation to be approved by a peer review board! It aint that formal!
Actually alot of white men DO care about white women dating black men, most white men don’t like it either. But anyways… I think the reason why black women get so mad when they see or hear about interracial couples (black men dating white women) is b/c black women are jealous of white women, what other reasons could it be? Ofcourse, they’re not goin to admit it, but its so OBVIOUS.
First of all, I believe the only reason why black women get so mad when they see or hear about black men dating white women is b/c black women are jealous of white women, Black women feel threatened by white women. And I’m not trying to be mean, but its the truth, I mean, It’s so obvious. But people really need to get over it, b/c it’s not goin to stop just b/c YOU don’t like it, and/or you complain about it. I see and hear so many black women try to tell all these lies and make up all these fake excuses for why they don’t like black men dating white women, but it’s all lies just to cover up the REAL reason why you don’t like interracial couples, particularly black men dating white women, and the REAL reason IS b/c BLACK WOMEN ARE JEALOUS OF WHITE WOMEN! B/c why do black women have such a BIG probably with black men dating white women, but you don’t say too much about it when it’s a woman of another race, non-white women? Hmm… Yea, so thats why it’s SO OBVIOUS that black women are jealous, and feel threatened by white women.
Halle, the reasons many black women may have reservations for the black men they date are often the reasons stated. It ain’t always jealousy. No offense, but the idea that black women are always jealous of white women makes me laugh. Some probably are, but not all black women are jealous of white women because frankly there is NOTHING, I mean nothing, to be jealous of. Some of y’all are pretty/ugly,rich/poor,fat/thin, you name it either way you are nothing special. Other women or men of the other groups-black,brown,red, and yellow are nothing special either. Not if it means you are somehow better or you have so much more to offer. Some of y’all “got it going on and together” but some of you don’t-like everybody else.I always wonder anyway, instead of butting in on black women or men’s conversations about each other, why don’t white people take the time to wonder why their INTERNAL intraracial relationships are falling apart.For all the criticisms of black men/black women, there is enough issues within the white community for it to deal with without whites making a point to designate themselves the savior of other communites. Seriously, the very forum here exist because there are some disagreements between both genders in the black community, so it is no denial there. But everything ain’t great on the other side of the grass either.As for IR relationships,there are reasons as to why some black men and women have a right to have reservations about these unions and until the reasons they have are changed for the better, they will still have the reservations. Whites in IR relationships need to accept this or go back to their white counterparts/be alone because it is what it is and it ain’t gone change until certain things do. Oh, and no, some of us may not say much about the other women dating black men, but then them women do not come on websites ALL THE TIME making a point of it to give black men or black women pointers as to what can be done in internal relationships when their internal house is not in order. Another thing some white folks can do is cut the crap about being so colorblind when it comes to IR relationships, because the person of color in these unions get major flak from whites. When it is black on white it is so obvious, but other non-whites get the flak in similar unions . It is sometimes more covert, but no less ugly.
First of all, I believe the only reason why black women get so mad when they see or hear about black men dating white women is b/c black women are jealous of white women, Black women feel threatened by white women. And I’m not trying to be mean, but its the truth, I mean, It’s so obvious. But people really need to get over it, b/c it’s not goin to stop just b/c YOU don’t like it, and/or you complain about it. I see and hear so many black women tell all these lies and make up all these fake excuses for why they don’t like black men dating white women. But it’s all lies just to cover up the REAL reason why you don’t like interaciall couples, particularly black men dating white women, and the REAL reason IS b/c BLACK WOMEN ARE JEALOUS OF WHITE WOMEN! B/c why do black women have such a BIG problem with black men dating white women, but you don’t say too much about it when it’s a woman of another race, non-white women? Hmm… Yea, so thats why it’s SO OBVIOUS that black women are jealous, and feel threatened by white women.
OK so BW are jealous of WW. True. And WW are jealous as hell of Asian women. Also true. Fact is, in America, your average BW ain’t **** and your average WW ain’t **** either. Don’ t tell me about your Scarletts and your Halle Berrys. Your average black or white woman is nothing to get excited about. Europe, South America Africa that’s a different story.
Honestly, I find this whole conversation kind of ridiculous, because the fact of the matter is that most black men are with black women. People need to check the facts. Although there are some black men with white or women of other races, the majority of black men are with black women. As a black man I know black men with women of all races, but I have never heard any of the guys say that they were with this woman or that woman because she was white or a pushover. As far my experience with women, I have never been with any woman of any race that was a pushover and allowed me to run rampant. And that includes white, hispanic and black. For some reason black women have created this myth, that men choose these women for the wrong reasons. I guess it makes some black women feel better about it or something. I am a black male living in the Bay Area, and almost all of my friends who are black have black women. So quit making up these wack excuses and keep looking for that good brotha out there. If he does’nt choose you just accept that fact and move on. Thats what us brotha’s do. We find that woman that wants to be with us. Just my opinion.
If your comingup to Blk man and asking why heswith someone your gonna hear something you don’t like. NO WHY?! Because not only are you asking a question that you have no legitimate right to now, unless your not fronting about being a racist, but asking someone something so personal makes them vulnerable and that triggers a defese reflex, duhhh. So a BMcan answer honestly to a BW not trying to hear it or bypass this process ad make a preimptive strike bysaying something about WW that takes away from BW. The just arnt gonna open their selves up to attacks by a woman already jaded and burned, thats not smarts..
As for WM being angry, we know of emmittill’s demise b\ut we also know Jack Johnson sexed, married, and even beat WM and no one put him in the mississippi. That man had the right attitude his whole life. Alot of White women raising interracial children could learn from him about courage and getting respect. I know they arnt always quick to keep THEIR families in line around THEIR OWN kids of mixd heritage.. The biggest issue here is giving power to the vanquished. I mean a WM or a bm OR WHOEVER can be irate over the site of seeing “your” own with another race but what card do you have to play? Your trying to move your rok after a check mate, its over. Howmany times has “leave that white boy for this mandingo” or the reverse statement ever lead to the request being honored? Why is a woman gonna go with you after you attacked her man and his heritage/? Fghting to the death wouldn’t even wield the desired results hear so what is the point of even gettinangry? If a BW kills some WW to get to the BM he’ll just hate youfor ever for it then you still want have him. Itsthe same for these white guys, if you attack a white girls black man how are yu gonna then get with her/ all you have left to play with is brute force i.e. rape because she will hate you too, and if yougotta resort to those ethods why even debate? I mean u continue to argue but you got no moves left to make, why are you givin a forum to gripe with?
Now to the BW again in regards to this whole “only we get you” bs give it a rest. Your a g**damn woman, how can you aid any man in any struggle? hOW ARE YOU AN ASSET TO OUR PAIN? Because after the police beat us with battons you are at the house to rub our heads and hold us? Your according to sum belief systems made from a man’s rib. A freakin rib, the things you do to comfort black men some would argue is your g*ddamn jobs to begin with as a chick period! Why based on your logic canti find this understanding with a White woman? I mean what if her grandparents survived th armenian genocide? What if shes a polish jew? Even though that Romanian Maria girl has no buisness talking about American issues where not her great grandparents subjected to racist and brutality by the non White ottomans in Rumania? Yeah, yall dnt kno bout that.. Black men seem to patriarticle to even bother pulling the “we are in the struggle with you”card, ever country in the world has oppresed “womynz” and any Black one would join those ranks immidietly, hypocracy and irony be damned.
Also I forgot to address twomore things, the color issue and the frontn issue.
Just because a bm goes for a lighter skinned bw with long hair doesntmean he wants mixed girls or white features. the bottomline is this, we are mostly W. Afrikan,
so these constant alek wek purity defenses are getting quite old. Obamacolor, a man who is biracial 1st gen, has a shade found on many w.afrikans, and some central w. afrikans have a shade almost lie alek wek’s. You can be lighter then jet black or blue and not have al thisscandalous white ancestry you make references to. many light skinned blacks prefer dark skinned blacks and find dark skin atractive. many dark skinned blacks are with other dark skinned blacks, where do you think the large number of dark skinned blacks come from if they are always looking to lightn their kids and move up a notch?! Furthermore there is nothing wrong with a brown skinned black wanting a brown skinned black or a non dark skinned black not wanting a dark skinned black. as log as they are promoting a color based heirarchy or pecking order and every aspect of life, our own jim crow, then its perfectly okay to not desire dark skin. as long as your in the sprectrum of Black you dak skinned folks just dont have enough to crycolorism with.. Asfor the hair, maybe, just maybe asking tohave it strait could be selfhated but ill be damned if any woman tells ayman hes wrong to ask for it to have length on it. Pam Grier had an afro but i dg t because it was large and had length, these short cropped bald headed black women face legitimate criticism. I man, most blacks are not only born with strait hair but also as young girls you all have ALOT of leth on your hairs, how you get to the point where you only have an Estelle like flop or keri hilson or Monca hair is on you and youcompletely.
The last issue is this habbit of putting words in Black mens’mouths. A black man wans a woman he cn walk over, he wants a check, a roof, blah blah.Oh and the media taught hm blondes were hot, ya thats a goodone.. You know if you got a group of women who in a world full of horn dogs who just melt athaving their shoulers patted, cant get a man, I think we gotta ask ourselves whats wrong with these women. Can BW even hold their own in the interracial relationships race like BM? Your makng alot of demands for a group withno cardsto really play. Its pathetic how you tryto use nationalism and black empowement and upliftment efforts as an excuse to try to get around not being able to get men and being horribly lonely.
a black man having sex a white woman used to be illegal in some states. no wonder black men want the forbidden stuff. black guys are brainwashed to see white women as the ultimate desirable objects. they also see the taking of white women as some sort of reparations for how the white man treated the slaves. it’s payback to the white racists, that’s how they see it in their minds.
Everyone give this woman a round of applause and spread the news! Finally, someone gets it. No one has any right whatsoever to impose their biased beliefs on another to persuade him or her that he or she shouldn’t be dating someone of another “race”.
I REMEMBER WHEN WHITE MEN USE TO RAPE BOTH BLACK WOMEN AND BLACKMEN, THEY USE TO CUT OFF THE BLACK MANS SEX ORGANS AND PUT IT INA JAR LIKE PICKLES AND MARVEL AT THE SIZE OF IT. DISRESPECTFUL IT IS FOR ANY BALCK MAN OR BLACK WOMAN TO DATE, MARRY, HAVE BABIES BY ANYONE OUTSIDE OF OUR COLOR BARRIERS OF BLACK, RED, YELLOW OR BROWN.
A JEWISH PERSON WILL NEVER MARRY A GERMAN!
REMEBER WHAT WAS DONE TO US AT THE HANDS OF THESE BASTARDS!
DO YOU THINK YOUR GREAT, GREAT GARNDMOTHER OR EVEN YOU GRANDMOTHER OR MOTHER WHO KNOWS HIS/HER HISTORY WOULD DISREPECT THEIR ANCESTORS BY MARRYING A WHITE PERSON.
WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT WHEN WE WERE BOUGHT HERE IN CHAINS AND OUR ANCESTORS WOULD TURN OVER IN THEIR GRAVES AT THE SITE OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING NOW.
THATS WHY GOD MADE YOU THAT COLOR SO YOU WOULD KNOW WHO YOU BELONGED TO.
TIME WILL NEVER CHANGE AND YOU SHOULD NOT EITHER’
TELLING YOUR KIDS THEY BI-RACIAL AND MIXED WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A DOMINANT GENE ANDA RCESSIVE GENE THATS GETS WIPED OUT IN FACE OF THE DOMINANT GENE.
YOUR BLACK HAIR, BROWN EYES AND BLACK SKIN
WHAT MAKES YOU ALL ASHAMED OF WHO YOU ARE THAT YOU SAY TO YOURSELVES THERE IS NOT ONE BLAK PERSON OUT THERE FOR ME THAT GOD DID NOT MAKE A BLACK MAN OR WOMA FOR ME!
RMEBER GOT DAMN IT!
I’m black and I think that MOST people born AFTER 1980 are tired of this race shit. And it’s even people in their 30′s that are dragging us down. You have lost and will continue to lose your precious young people because WE ARE TIRED OF THIS RACE SHIT.
Don’t sit here and type up how much you dislike interracial relationships. Have any of you heard of the bill of human rights? Well in the bill of human rights there is an article number 16 which states that people can marry whomever they want REGARDLESS of race. Get you lazy behinds up and stand at the lincoln memorial and protest with a huge poster if you hate interracial dating and marriage.
Also, I have had friends of many different races who have dated people from many different race, and we don’t give a damn. People that follow that older generation crap think that when someone is the same race as you, you somehow BELONG to them; own them and they own you. And anyone that is a different race are treated like they are completely different species. What garbage that rule is that the older generations have drudged up!
Well I may be black but I am not owned by someone because they have the same skin tone as me. I am my own person LEGALLY in the U.S. The BIll of Human Rights states that I can go where I want to in this place, have an education in this place, own property in this place, have friends of any race or whatever in this place, and marry whomever I want to in this place.
I cannot and will not live my life for anyone else. I have to live my life for ME. This controlling attitude is ridiculous,
And yes, I am VERY VERY LIBERAL when it comes to race, and I am damn well proud of it. I LOVE being a VERY VERY LIBERAL democrat!
And yes, I am VERY VERY LIBERAL when it comes to race, and I am very proud to be a VERY VERY liberal democrat!
The fact is that “mixed-race relationships” usually mean black men and white women. This is what my grievance is. As a white male I find these type of “relationships” disgusting. How any white woman can lower herself to have a black man is beyond me. And before you call me racist look at the facts. Nearly all decent, hard-working black men with morals would never even think of dating a white woman. This type of black man has ethics and family values. It’s nearly always the “ghetto” black man that wants white women because he knows that the type of white woman who’d go out with blacks is someone with no respect for herself. Basically, a complete low life who thinks it’s fashionable being seen with a black man. And that he can treat her as badly as he wants and get away with it. Many white men would never dare touch a white woman after she’s had a black man, and rightly so. And, how many of these white women are left alone to raise mixed-race children after “their” black man leaves them and goes on to the next white woman? You see, the type of black man that wants white women only wants them for one thing: to spread his seed and have as many children as possible. This type of black man, as I said before, has no morals. That’s why they’re extremely promiscuous and have no desire whatsoever to be a father to the vast amounts of children they have. They know that black women have morals, unlike the slutty white women they want, and would never tolerate their behaviour. That’s why I have a lot of respect for black women who say it’s wrong for “brothers” to have white women. What an insult it is to black women. I also have respect for black women who would never dare date a white man. But, as much as I don’t condone white men having black girlfriends, at least this type of relationship is more genuine. It’s not as if this type of black woman purposefully set out to find a white man; which is clearly not the case when a white woman has a black “partner”. This type of white woman is hell-bent on finding a black man, no matter what he looks like. Even a ghetto black man like Ice Cube has the right idea – he would never contemplate having a white woman. Dogs with dogs, cats with cats.
@Matt,
I find your comment utterly disgusting. In fact a majority of the statements on this subject are disgusting.
According to your hypnosis Matt I am a ‘low life’ and my 7 year relationship with my partner is a fashion statement?! A combination of my origin and my partner choice apparantly dicates that I am a ‘slutty’…Further to this, according to you, I am ‘lowering’ myself by being with the man I love. Your choice of the word ‘lowering’ is interesting…followed up by the hypocritical claim that you are in fact not racist..(yet in the previous breath you place white women above black men by implying that they lower themselves to be with a black man) moving on…you justify your racism through ‘facts’ that appear to be a concoction of generalisations that do nothing but heighten the racism you are attempting to disguise.
On what grounds are these so called facts based? Im sorry to dissapoint you Matt but my reality completely opposes the fictional opinion that you are claiming as fact.
My husband is a nurse and I am a teacher. We are the furthest away from the sterotype you so accurately described.
To all the black women who claim I have stolen one of ‘their’ good guys please feel free to take Matt in return- he is an absolute disgust to MY race!
slutty white womenit’s fashionable being seen with a black man. And that he can treat her as badly as he wants and get away with it. Many white men would never dare touch a white woman after she’s had a black man, and rightly so. a You state that a woman is lowering
How any white woman can lower herself to have a black man is beyond me.
a complete low life who thinks it’s fashionable being seen with a black man. And that he can treat her as badly as he wants and get away with it. Many white men would never dare touch a white woman after she’s had a black man, and rightly so.
The fact is that “mixed-race relationships” usually mean Asian women and white men. This is what my grievance is. As a white female I find these type of “relationships” disgusting. How any white man can lower himself to have a Asian woman is beyond me. And before you call me racist look at the facts. Nearly all decent, hard-working white men with morals would never even think of dating an Asian woman. This type of white man has ethics and family values. It’s nearly always the “ghetto” white man that wants Asian women because he knows that the type of Asian woman who’d go out with whites is someone with no respect for herself. Basically, a complete low life who thinks it’s fashionable being seen with a white man. And that he can treat her as badly as he wants and get away with it. Many white women would never dare touch a white male after he’s had an Asian woman, and rightly so. And, how many of these Asian women are left alone to raise mixed-race children after “their” white man leaves them and goes on to the next white or Asian woman? You see, the type of white man that wants Asian women only wants them for one thing: to spread his seed and have as many children as possible. This type of white man, as I said before, has no morals. That’s why they’re extremely promiscuous and have no desire whatsoever to be a father to the vast amounts of children they have. They know that Asian men have morals, unlike the slutty white men they want, and would never tolerate their behaviour. That’s why I have a lot of respect for Asian men who say it’s wrong for Asian women to have white men. What an insult it is to Asian men. I also have respect for Asian men who would never dare date a white woman. But, as much as I don’t condone white women having Asian girlfriends, at least this type of relationship is more genuine. It’s not as if this type of Asian man purposefully set out to find a white woman; which is clearly not the case when a white man has an Asian “partner”. This type of Asian woman is hell-bent on finding a white man, no matter what he looks like. Even a ghetto white trash has the right idea – he would never contemplate having an Asian woman. Dogs with dogs, cats with cats, hippos with hippos, sparrows with sparrows, crocs with crocs, gators with gators, eagles with eagles, tigers with tigers, lions with lions, cuckoos with cuckoos, etc…
Ok, so you claim you are not raciest? not only are you racist but you are obvious jealous. Seems to me that anyone who wants to express something thats bothering me disents off of some sort of jealous issue.
my problem with this is why are some ignorant individuals stuck on the color of one’s skin.Who cares if a BLACK man dates or starts a relationship with a WHITE woman. So if that woman was black than I guess it will be ok according to you. You need to come out and do some much more needed analyzing and maybe you will find out that the reason interracial couple exists is because of real love and not because you claim white woman are more successful or are apart of “a big pond” like you claimed.Im furious to come upon other women comments as well. Looks like alot of individuals are stuck on stereotypes and I can guarantee that they have never mingled among other individuals of a different race. I guess I’m one of the few that can see out side the box and admire a man for what he is rather than focusing on whether he is black, white, or Hispanic. I myself . a proud Hispanics woman, have dated outside of my race and not once did I do it because he was a successfully individual or more intelligent than a white man. I simply did it because I honestly fell in love with his personality and not his status in life. Maybe if many of the women who are disagreeing stop focus on the issue of mix-race relationship they would be in a fulfilling relationship their selves.
Well, I am a caucasion male age 45 living in Tennessee. I just waded my way thru ALL of your posts, and good GOD your race problems are complicated in the black community! I have dated a hispanic girl in Miami, but never dated a black girl. I almost always date caucasion females. The stereotypes of black men that were written about in this forum were entertaining to read, but the tragedy of what is happening to them in the criminal justice system is a huge concern for many, and should be for all of America. It would be nice if we could somehow find a way to get along. Does not seem like we are. I think it bothers some white guys to see a white girl out with a black guy– but not for the sexual reasons mentioned, all of which are myth and none of which really matter. They see white girls who go out with black guys, and the white girls ALWAYS end up the worse for it. I personally have never seen ANY white girl who dated black men and did NOT get somehow screwed over– beat up, pimped out, put down, hooked on drugs, impregnated, left behind, screwed OVER! Or murdered like Nicole Brown Simpson. Sometimes I think every thing that the black man touches… he DESTROYS. But then I see another dude working hard at a job, like the two black electricians who helped me today to get my house repaired. I have to realize that at the end of the day? They are GUYS…. just like me! So even if there are things we don’t see eye to eye about, I can STILL relate to them as MEN! We are men, and damm*t life is pretty hard for us. Just in case women have not noticed, we are hitting the dirt out at the local cemeteries far faster than you. I also understand the anger people feel when seeing interracial couples because at some level we are all trying to find love, and when we see people whom we think have found it but are unusual… we question their motives, and decisions. I will always date caucasion women, and will marry one if the right one comes along. If not I will stay single. At the end of the day, that option REMAINS. I can stay single. It is far easier than most people think. It is simpler. But it DOES seem that overweight black women have very disturbing paradigms about America.
I personally have never seen ANY white girl who dated black men and did not get somehow screwed over-beat up, pimped out, put down, hooked on drugs, impregnated, left behind, screwed OVER! Or murdered. Sometimes I think everything that the black man touches, he DESTROYS.
To be the devil’s advocate Conan, maybe, just maybe these girls are choosing black guys that are jerks. They bear some responsibility in this.I am not the only person that feels this way.See the comment above by Matt to get the details. As for murder, I get it. White people are still in grief about Nicole Simpson! On behalf of the black community, sorry for that one!I know it was tragic! But guess what. Juan Minelli(an white American Gladiator contestant) killed Cheryl Wilson-his black wife.Oh, and a white millionaire/billionaire in Atlanta killed his black wife. What does that say? It says-among other things- that black women have horror stories in white male/black women IR relationships as well because some white men do indeed have issues. The grass is NOT always greener on the other side. As for black men messing up everything they touch, how do you know that the same thing isn’t said about white men by some black people?You said sometimes I know, but still! At the end of the day black men are no better or worse than any other type of man-and VICE VERSA! Finally, exactly what is the disturbing paradigm that overweight black women have about America?
To Conan
Black guys destroy everything we touch?? You joking right?? But white men are destroying this world on every aspect and level you can think of and will leave nothing for anyone, the children, or themselves. Your ignorance shines through and through. Women are all the same regardless of color, that’s probably why your single because your race of women don’t even want you. Sad but fact… you did say you were single. Educate yourself before you open your mouth and say some more dumb sh…
I agree with my fellow interracial dater above. The poster “Jule” is absolutely a racist. I am a white woman and my fiance is biracial, half black and half white. To those of you against interracial dating, I would ask, who should he be dating? If he dates a white girl, it’s an interracial relationship. If he dates a black girl, it’s an interracial relationship. Only if he were to find another half black – half white girl would it not be.
How can anyone judge a relationship that they are not part of? Nobody has that right. I’m with my fiance because I love him for who he is, and I would be with him no matter what race he was. I don’t care what other people think because he is literally my other half and my soul mate (as cheesy as it sounds) and I couldn’t live without him. Other people should focus on their own relationships and stop judging other people’s relationships when they know absolutely nothing about them except the color of the individual’s skin.
I think everyone who worries about black/white couples need to chill out. By the Census, all I/R marriage types together are about 3% of total US marriages and only 10% of these I/R’s involve black/white couples. This means all black/white couples are only 0.3 % or about 1/3 of 1%. This is hardly worth screaming about.
The only people who should be howling about I/R are Asian Men. If what I’ve picked is true, about 41% of US born married Asian women are married to a white man. The way that is going one day you may see more US Asian women married to a white man than to an Asian man.
Black women should note that only about 4.6% of all married blacks (about 2/3 men & 1/3 women) has a white partner. I think the ladies need to stop tripping on the few percent of out marriages and look at the bigger fact that MORE THAN 90% OF MARRIED BLACK MEN ARE MARRIED TO A BLACK WOMAN. I think that is more than 4 million black men with a black woman. Get a grip ladies. Please !
I think we may take a serious offense because as we watch these black men marry white women and live happily ever, we struggle to cnnect with a suitable mate and have progressive relationships of our own. Perhaps if we were fortunate enough to cultivate love of own own we may not be phased by their abandonment…
i do not agree with the artical.
i am a white female in a relationship with a black man,
we are very happy and i have plenty black, mixed, & white female friends and not one has had bad things to say about the difference in color.
the way i see it is a person is a person they could be black white purple pink blue or what not…. its not the color of someones skin its who they are..
the part about the white girl knows her place…. ummm no..
i dont care what skin tone someone has they will not run over me!! you people that have a problem with interracial dating need to suck it up and get over it!! we are in 2010 people!! change is here!!!
oh and as i was going through that artical again…. brothers…..
that is such a racial slure
i think that you should change your writing topic…
you should be very disipointed in yourself!!!!!!!
I am Canadian and my views do not reflect the views of my diverse people so don’t hate them.
When people say interracial or racism, it is always black and white ……………………….and blue, purple, or yellow. There are no blue purple people no matter how many times I hear it. These people are probably too self centered to see people other than black or white as humans. (By intentionally or unintentionally not mentioning them)
The term interracial means black and white. Even if I was searching for interracial views between an East Asian and Latina. This is because America (the world is not just America) has had racial issues the most with black people being enslaved.
The correct slang is
Black for African
White for wasps (or Caucasians)
Yellow for Asians
Red for Native Americans
Brown for Middle Easterns
Olive for Mediterranean (ok so they are Caucasian.)
[@nasrallah_posrallah_usrallah]
I also find it funny that this guy USING (could be posing/trolling) with a arabic name mentioned how White women are tainted if they fuck Black men. This guy is not white and his racist views are probably because he’s a backwassward anti American Islamic extremist. Those religious political terrorist issues are a bit more concerning to me than whose dating what. They are not even “your” women why should you care who they fuck?
I think their religion say something about it’s ok to take white women if you convert your children to muslim. So they want to invade or just some bullshit like they are jealous of America.
And to the people who replied to him thinking he was white without taking a clue from his trolling name, that just proves how uninformed you are.
And One more thing. White men don’t care? ALL men care who “their own” women are dating to an extent (it is after all one less woman for us) we do love our own women. If it was up to men we’d have all women(don’t you ever hear black men say they love all women? thats what they mean) but that society wouldn’t work because we’d be fighting and never have any peace.
Just because it isn’t said doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
We will continue to see each other as separate groups until we accept each other, so dating the other “race” now means joining a different group that doesn’t always see eye to eye. We are still humans separated just by biology and culture.
For the BLACK WOMEN who work hard and deserve some love. I don’t know how to be honest with you. I think the issue is attraction and some brain washing. Black men have to be attracted to you. Any fugly can have a degree but a hot real woman that has a degree and can understand the primal animal that a man and woman is should not have any problems finding a mate. You might have to try smarter, not harder, not everything in attraction is money, status, degrees(for men), we are animals but we can be moral, loyal animals that we call human beings.
I am not really that religious, especially accepting Christianity at face value so I laugh at the African American who believes in the white man’s version of god yet holds racist views towards the white man. I do believe there can be a real god but this god hasn’t proven them self to me.
One more thing, black women, please consider us other men as mates (if you don’t already hate what I’ve said) There might be lost causes in any race but for the borderline women, you have a chance.
I posted because I am quite tired of racial issues and wish the Muslims the blacks and whites and everyone else would get along.
I am a white woman… I was born that way… I got married to a black man… he was born that way… I think colors are just that… a dress it is so… no matter the color! we are raising our two interracial children just fine! They are given values, love, understanding, care etc. being black or white shouldn’t be an issue… race, belief, clothes, figure… what??? why does anybody care for what is outside? That is sad!!! a quality humankind doesn’t address to those subject but to how to make this earth a better place… one we could all proudly say… “I helped building it!
Have any of you bothered to consider that maybe the reason they’re dating white women is because there’s more of them? The census bureau estimates the US overall is 75% white and 12% black. So there’s seven white women for every black woman. It has nothing to do with rejecting a challenge, it’s just that there is more of them. I’m a white guy with a black woman and she isn’t any worse than most white women, in fact the reason I’m with her is because she’s less annoying. If a guy left you for another black chick, you’d probably think he didn’t like something about, but if it’s for a white chick, he’s gotta have some kind of racial fetish? If you really were better than her he wouldn’t have left you.
Statistics: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=ACS_2008_1YR_G00_&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=ACS_2008_1YR_G2000_B02001&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=false&-all_geo_types=N&-currentselections=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B02001&-geo_id=01000US&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en
Enough with the foolish every time you hear this topic or read about it
It’s always a black woman with too much education and a big mouth.
Enough already people date whom ever they want to date it’s about who put a smile on your face and make you happy
Stop the none sense about building strong black homes etc
Give it a rest
I’m a black man in case you’re wondering
Why I date white women and not you. Jeez, get over yourselves. Why I date white women and not you is simply that I find them more attractive. (Period, end of sentence). Why I find them more attractive has a lot to do with my own personal history, access/competition, socio-biological parameters related to mate selection in addition to the historical template of this nation. BTW, there are a few Black women I have found attractive, however, they were not attracted to me. Therefore we did not date. Ultimately, it is who we find “attractive,” not their race or race politics that plays into who we will or will not date. There are plenty of Black men that will only date Black women. But what about the brother that loves Asians or Middle Easterners or Indians; Why does that not burn you as much as a brother dating an Ofay? If it doesn’t then your basic premise is faulty. If it does, you are jealous and should spend you efforts on becoming more attractive to a potential mate. Attraction is what it is all about. And, attraction is more than the color of ones skin, the size of their nose or the texture of their hair. Get over you black white paradigm it just drags us all down.
I read your article. Interracial? “we are all the human race.” My husband does not like any females who have a tree on their shoulder, because it is a waste of energy.
I am not white, I am Italian and dark. I have a Black skinned husband. Sadly your article makes you sound sad. God makes it clear in the bible we are all one under him. Men will always be men regardless of color…I am not American, I Thank God I did not grow up with this brainwashing crap. I will never allow my kids to bud up to anyone because of skin color… They will treat people of all color with the same respect they want to be treated. I do not get stares, as I certainly would say something like “do you know us? if not kindly take ur galre and place it where it should be on your own life… You do know God will judge you for this… take it from one who knows. If you were drowning, would it matter if a white women walking with her black husband threw you a safety ring to help keep you afloat, possibly to save your life?
Maybe if you accepted yourself for who you are inside, instead of the color of the skin God baked you in… your life would be so much better…
Most people regardless of color do not care what others think. If your not paying our house note, or car note or sleeping with us… then mind your own and grow up!
There are some white women who are attracted to men for all the wrong reasons & vice versa. I hope you find peace in your life because no-one cares, live for today and let God Judge all In Jesus name Amen
I hope you find you own worth as a women regardless of color.
Education will never prepare one for the real world. I suspect you have not ventured out of the states, i hope you do go to europe and see if wome baked in black skin give a shit about you, even better go to africa, you will be robbed and discarded, that is how much ur skin color means to them. Open your eyes and get real before God make you. This not meant to make you feel bad, just be a little more worldly… If you really want to go to war, write bloggs about how much of an immortal sin it is for men n men to become lovers and the same goes for women
Men do not define us as women, How would you feel if Brad pitt single, asked you on a date? would you refuse bcause he is white in color?
Our daughter is exceptionally beautiful, she is married to a korean guy.
I had enough sense to understand he is a man first and foremost, Cute like bruce lee
Th bible has rules which will never change, for you I. or anyone else. Gods rules gone be ther till the end of time
Goodnigh Gobless
Mary
Speak for yourself…or just for black American women if they don’t mind you speaking on their behalf. I’m a black woman and I’ve never cared about black men/white women couples. Anyone can be with whomever they want to. It has nothing to do with me or my life. If they’re together for “wrong” reasons, then so what? What do you care. People get together for wrong reasons all the time, even when the relationships aren’t interracial…so what’s your point? If they’re together for the wrong reason then the relationship will fail or they’ll just be very unhappy. What are you getting worked up over it for? I think you have self-esteem issues and need the validation of every strange black man you see. I know I’m beautiful and desirable so the opinion of some random black man isn’t my concern. Anyway, I’m married to a white man. A lot of Americans have a lot of issues. I’m tired of this color stupidity. I may raise my children elsewhere.
As a Black man, I know the vast majority of us that date outside our race do not do so because of race. We are men and men will chase anything that looks good no matter what color it is. It has nothing to do with what race does what sexually because there are freaks all along the color spectrum. Most dudes want to have the largest selection of woman as possible. And that means looking at women across the color line. Thats all. Its just that simple. Black women are making it seem so complicated but its not. How do you increase the number of women you could possibly date? Date women of all colors.
Call us cold, but we white men have a different way of dealing with this thing. I don’t know what it is, and I don’t know why, but if we know a girl has slept around with blacks before, she is immediately banned … that’s it. We don’t feel anger or hatred about it, not toward him or her, but we just won’t accept her back into the fold. It is just an unspoken rule, I guess just because we assume the girl is a size queen chasing after the myth and we don’t want that trash in our circles.
“Once you go black, we won’t take you back”
JoeStevens…. News Flash!!!! Most white women have been with at least one black guy and when I say most I mean more than half… but you’ll never know because they’ll take it to their grave bro. LOL : )
such bs, i Know plenty who would never. Sluts and crack whores yea, real white women, never. I seen many pathetic black men try to use “wat are u racists to get them in bed, too” just face it black women are ugly, so brothas have to get something better, Anything!!!
how about we all just worry about our own, mmkay?
“You never hear a white man complain about a white woman giving it up to a brother instead of him; in fact, I’m willing to bet he would quickly give the brother a high-five at his conquest, because they probably believe in the Mandingo myth as well”
Are you kidding me!?! Just because its not said outloud in the public, doesnt mean it isnt resented, When i talk to other white guys, most if not all cant stand the black males lusting for white women and the fact that its happening more and more, the only white males you will ever meet that are ok with that are black wannabe white males.
Most every black male i have met say they prefer white women. It is very disgusting and is hurting their own women in the process. Its not so bad to me if its an intelligent black male who doesnt talk street saying he prefers a white woman.That doesnt bother me. However, The typical street thug black male saying outloud he lusts the white woman, is what makes a white male like me go crazy.
Its human nature to protect your women from outsiders. This is no different than in the old times when invaders came into other peoples lands and the men came and protected the women from outsiders raiding and raping of their women. That is how i feel sometimes.
fyi the person who posted the statement saying white women are tainted if they screw black men are correct. -If you go black, white men wont take you back
Oh my! If you go with black, whitey won’t take you bacK!
White men are quite gross, I am white but olive skinned.
Every white dude who has chased me down had an inferior complex! because i am natuarlly tanned with green eyes!
White men won’t take a white women back after she has dated a black guy because, they’re afraid she’s going to say “Is it in yet!” LOL
What century are ya’ll living in??
Seriously though, Who gives a s***
Mr. white dude get over yourself! us white girls will date who we want when we want!…and if we want you next! you will accept!
Men are men…in every shape and color!
I bet the white dudes who say never going to date a white woman who dated a black guy is “MR. FUGLY! ”
Oh I’ma just having some fun, and I have dated the rainbow, guess what guys…whatever color they all shit, and it all stinks!
Grow up mamacita, no black man belong to you…until you have a wedding ring on ya’ll finger! Put a prettier pic up maybe you will attract a fine young gentleman
Umm…In response to the last commenter, Full aka Becky, … Don’t take the opinions of others so personally! It sounds as though you may be frustrated or offended at possibly some of your own interracial dating experiences… Tsk tsk… I mean really what does it matter what mr. white dude thinks, or what you deem as being a pretty picture? I mean, who are you? and what have you done? Besides everyone under the rainbow. Lol… now Im having fun too
i think black women have it wrong. most white men epsecially me, find black women far more beautiful and natural than white women. it has always been a 100 easier for a blackman to date a white women. ebony women are by far the most beautiful women on earth but they dont get into the whole white dude thing or they dont know what it would be like to be worshipped as the nubian princess she really is, and women would worship them even for color alone. their build, eyes, nose, lips are truely gods best work. what is sad is i would have to go to africa to find someone before i could find one in my own country
Les is sick.
my thang is to many young black women have To MANY children out of wedlock who wants a baby mama these girls don’t use they brains at all black women have WAY TO MANY ISSUES SOME SADLY ARE INTELLECTUALLY DULL HAVE DADDY ISSUES DON’T KNOW HOW TO RESPECT A GOOD BLACK MAN DON’T KNOW WHEN TO BE QUITE AND PLAY THEY POSITION AS WOMEN BLACK WOMEN PICK THE WORST MATES AKA NO GOOD AZZ NIGGAS AND THEN COMPLAIN AFTER THE THUG PUMPS THEM FULL OF BABIES MAYBE THAT WHY SO DUDES DATE OUT alot of black men just tired of black women
If sistas would not be so damn harsh on the black man we would not have to suck dick on the side!!!
I am so sick of sistas triflin’ on us. I personally do not find white people attractive, but another brother is like no other.
And niggaz like me gotta keep this shit low. Because yo azzes can’t deal widdit. Sometimes a nigga need a dick. And pu$$y 2…. But at least whites don’t trifle bout dis shit
Black man here. After reading the article I am aware that the writer has her own internal issues with interracial dating. I like WOMEN (no color before the word). I have dated across the board… hispanic, asian, white, black, indian, native american, and more. I’m going to date whoever makes me happy and treat’s me with respect. Personally through MY OWN personal experiences the worst women that I’ve dated have been black, but I’m just saying. It’s 2010 people… either get with the times or get lost in the your ignorance.
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I am not sure about the attitude thing. That can change from person to person. But it’s about options. White girls are the cream among girls. Many of them are hot …much hotter than most black girls. I mean …look at your own picture and look at that girl in the picture being kissed – Heidi Klum. Who would I chose if I were a young successful black guy with options?
Btw, showing her in the article does not help your case, let me tell you that.
I didn’t choose the artwork, but thanks for the “insight.”
my mother is black, my father is white, and my family is beautiful
adding some more thoughts:
(luckily) I can’t say that race has ever mattered so much to me, despite the fact that I am a predominantly “black-looking” black and white (and asian, actually) woman; that said, I’d like to offer a possible explanation for some black women’s negative feelings around some black men dating white women: a totally understandable and forgivable insecurity. Those of us in North America live in a culture that idolizes a white standard of beauty and femininity (yes, this, too is an old idea…and it is thankfully -and slowly- changing over time). Actually, not only does our culture idolize this ideal, it has a disgusting history of punishing deviations from this. Couple that with an absolutely harrowing overall racial history and a continued (albeit diminishing) lack of equality AND the unrealistic standard of femininity that ALL women, white or not, put up with, and it’s no wonder some black women might feel sad, angry or rather jealous of their white counterparts. These feelings are not without good cause. We are systematically *encouraged* to feel this way.
But, really, despite these (admittedly, sometimes, massive) obstacles, we’ve got to realize that the sooner one learns not to identify with something as meaningless as race or gender, the sooner one can find happiness. We are more than our colour, our sex and yes, we are even more than our family history. We are more than our various ethnicities, and we can heal from past grievances, even if said grievances are enormous…and even if we must heal largely unaided.
This is not to say that one’s cultural history is not worth celebrating, if one is so inclined, but there’s more than enough negativity in the world without so many of us buying into bullshit.
A woman who inhabits, accepts and enjoys herself fully, confidently and with love is gorgeous – regardless of ethnicity.
Knowing this, I am always, always thrilled to see love in the world, in whatever forms – or colours- it manifests.
final thought (then I’ll stop ranting, I promise): I actually read a racist article in which Heidi Klum was used by a white supremacist as an example of how the fashion industry supposedly uses “masculine-looking” women to attempt to subvert the reigning white standard of femininity. Yes, she is white (blonde, at that) but she is, like many top models, also very strong looking (and very beautiful!). While the author of the article was not mistaken in pointing out the skewed eye of the fashion industry (with which I have limited first-hand experience), he failed to recognize that the stereotype of black, native and asian women looking stronger (and thus, according to his logic, more “manly”) than white women is not only an inaccurate farce, it’s a commentary on *gender* perceptions, not racial ones. At any rate, it’s interesting that he tried to use her to make a misguided point in favour of racism, and that you are using her in a similar way (but this time on the black side of the fence).
Attractive people are attractive because they either have aesthetically pleasing proportions (which occur across the board regardless of race OR gender) or they are comfortable in their own skin (or, the beholder has something rather unique in his or her eye). Beauty is not about race, nor is sexuality
(…except in the rare case of racial fetishism, which is not really all that relevant here).
*steps down from soapbox*
you don’t tell us what to do,we do cumdumpster. no body wants a mudshark cumdumpster
OOOOOOOOOKAAAAAAAY! I’m a 39 year old African American Male I’m also active duty Soldier, and yes I support interracial dating, and Yes I myself am bitter twards Black Women, Why do you ask? here’s why: During my years as a teenager whenever I stepped to a young black female I was judged harshly, if I didn’t have game, if I wasn’t wearing the right clothes I often found myself being rejected, now when I went to girls from other races and not just white girls but hispanic girls I had a better success rate with at least getting a phone number and an even better chance at getting a date.
My experience with black females at that time was either being rejected or they had their hands out with the “whatcha gonna do fo’ me” mentality even on the appearance side of things for every one beautiful sista I found twice as many ugly ones meaning 1)fake hair 2)fake contacts 3)obesity…..then they make excuses for them. I’m quite sure that there were many borthas who’ve been in a similar situation. Many black women would call this being weak. Is it really or did some of us decided to widen our view, now believe me if more black women went back to maintaining themselves I.E. you can be beautiful without 1)fake hair 2)fake contacts. ever heard of dreadlocks?! I’ve seen plenty of black women who look very attractive with them. then there’s the issue of obesity, I’m sorry but if you’re overweight then face facts stop making excuses for being that way I.E. calling yourself “Big Boned” YOU’RE FAT not Phat but F.A.T.!!!!!! get your fat ass into the gym and work out get a personal trainer and loose some goddamn weight!
That being said that’s the beginning of my Bitterness twards Black women. During my years at my first duty station which was Ft Hood TX I was looking for a wife and not a temporary roll in the hay, I sure as hell didn’t want to become somebody’s meal ticket, yet again I looked everywhere Church, the Mall, the Supermarkets the Club I would even travel to Austin (1 Hour away) none of em panned out I always came up empty, the ones in uniform wouldn’t even look twice at me. Now for those women who are curious about what I look like google Image Louis Davis Taekwondo. You’ll see what I look like.
I finally got fed up with this. you’d think that a single Black male who had enough sense to enlist and to make a better life for himself would speak volumes to Black women….No it didn’t, to women of other races it sure did, why is it that so many of you don’t realize that there are many of us “Good Black Men” out there until after you see us with a woman from another race?! In my opinion the reasom black men have flocked to women of other races is because they are approachable do some of us get rejected? yes but our chances of getting a date finding a companion even forming a relationship seems to be more likely. I strongly siggest that Black women take a good look at that before they go shotgun blasting us for deciding to do so. I’ve also noticed that Black women really don’t bother to take a good hard look at themselves before pointing the finger at us.
In the end I am married to a woman from another race for two reasons 1)because I simply loved her 2)because you my sistas didn’t present yourselves when I searched for you.
I have a right to be happy don’t I? Or is it only when I marry a woman of my own race? I gave you a fair and impartial chance……I had my standards but they were simple ones, they were not unrealistic, but were your standards too unrealistic for many of us? In my opinion I’d say yes.
The reason White men could care less is because the Black men are getting the white leftovers or ones whites have grown tired of. As far as them dating white women over blacks, who can blame them black women are ugly.
Firstly define the word Ugly, then define the word Person, then think of human being, Yeh I’m a Black Man too, and truth said, I think black Woman, are strong willed and have certain negative qualities too, as we do as people but so do White Woman and other races too,
Hey who’s Perfect right. And Truth said if you say black woman are Ugly ur probably scared to look at a Sister in the eye see here mind and see her Teach you, maybe your scared my MAN, Only left over is that small Screw between balls OH my Bad I meant PENIS Right LOL sorry slip of the tongue.
I ain’t gonna lie to you, sure I’ve got my struggles as a black person, not knowing where you stand in the world, but determined to be better do good,
And sure I’ve got my own prejudices, about white dating black me and Vise versa, but sometimes when I work at my local Cinema, I meet all types of people, and somtimes the people I serve can rude and be of a race that leaves an impression in my mind, and somtimes they can be nice, when I never thought they would, and when I leave sometimes I feel ashamed to look down sometimes on some relationships when I walk home,
But I realise despite life bull shit as black person, despite my Hopes, whatever dreams I got, at the end of the day, I just think as people, especially as black people on both sides, we’ve got to help each other, look I don’t have much like a lot peeps too, but you know sometimes I see a black person in a Range Rover, I get Jealous, but then after that, I feel Pride on the brother or sister that got, coz like that’s aspirations for doing better, and sure we can’t tell what the future will hold, but I believe our ancestors didn’t die so that we could fight each, and hate like this, were all connected all our pain, hate fears, and Anger I feel it I do,
But if were continue fighting everyday then maybe lets try a bit harder, to hold to that pride not matter how small that is another brother happy, and maybe those of us that are Lonely weather were Black or White will find love, if not then Campionship, I wish that on Haters, Lovers, and anybody else because u only live once right.
Econ 101, supply and demand. If you can’t find what you want in one market you go to another. Now if the issue is that you can’t compete with other women, that’s your problem, not ours.