
4 Young Black Americans. 5 Questions. Then we send them through the fire.
Renee: Nashville
Garfield: North Carolina
Yohanna: Cleveland
Jaclynne: New Orleans
Check out what our Fresh Roundtable participants discuss, and chime in on your own at the end. Kickin’ knowledge and having fun… its what FXP is all about.
1) If we are going to truly address the issues in black communities across the nation, is it time for us to put aside the idea that President Obama has a special obligation to African-Americans?
Renee: Yes. While I am elated that Barack Obama is the first black president we cannot look to him to be out almighty savior as well. We have to remember that to the rest of the world, he represents the United States of America. Not just us. What I would hope is that he would have a meeting with our top political figures (those obvious and not so obvious) and light a fire under their butts to step up and develop an action plan to address the issues that are plaguing our community.
Garfield: Anybody who was waiting on Obama to do it, or expects Obama to do it, is a damned fool. It’s not that he WON’T do it (and that’s only a guess) it’s that he CAN’T. We’ve been addressing and trying to fix issues in the black communities before Obama was even thought of, and we need to be thinking about fixing the community long AFTER he’s gone. I know there are some people who think Obama is the messiah sent down from the heavens to carry every black person on their back to the promised land (thank the lord I don’t know them personally). That’s unrealistic, the community has to save the community and I just don’t understand what exactly people want/expect Obama to do.
Yohanna: I’ve never been of the belief that Obama was obligated to do anything for me. As a matter, had there been a better Republican candidate, I probably would’ve voted for him instead. I actually supported John Edwards until he decided to trick off his life on Rielle Hunter and their love child, thus the main cause of his political demise.
Anyway, some African Americans, are of the misguided belief that just because an African American is representing the American people that he was going to abandon the politics of yesteryear and create a new political structure. Because Obama hasn’t done that, people are now voicing their discontent with him. He’s the president for all of the United States of America, not just African Americans and at the end of the day, no matter how much he claimed to have wanted to distance himself from them, he still has to appease the elite in this country. Obviously he’s a better upgrade from Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, but he’s obligated to do his job of running this country, not making special concessions for black folks.
Jaclynne: Cut that crap out. Obama has a special obligation to Americans. The color of his skin shouldn’t mean that we should think we deserve special treatment. That’s the same form of cronyism we’ve hated all these years, let’s not be hyprocrites.
Renee: Denial. The black community has a bad habit of just saying “It’s nothing big. Let’s just pray it away”. While I am very spiritual and all, I know that God gave me good common sense for a reason. You can’t pray away debt, poverty, AIDS, etc. You can pray that he releases you from it and provides you the necessary plan to work on delivering you from it. But to just deny that it exists in hopes of it magically disappearing is fruitless. Use prayer as a starting point but then put action behind those prayers.
Garfield: Education. Education. Education. I will always and forever be a fan of education because that was how I was able to get away from the hopelessness in my upbringing. ”I’m of the belief that a good quality education is what is going to lead the community back to a point where they will be able to acquire wealth. Not a rich community, a WEALTHY community. To quote Chris Rock “Wealth has the power to uplift communities from poverty.” I’m not just talking about school education either. Life education. Sex education. Credit education. Mortgage education. Anything education.
I think parents need to become more involved in their kids education. Someone has to make these kids care, because they can’t see the value in it on their own. My grandmother handed me a book when I was 10 years old. I’ve been an avid reader ever since then. If parents show that they care with what’s going on in their kids lives, kids will act in appropriately.
If that doesn’t work, how about opening up more community programs where kids can go to learn about different things? Expand their worldview beyond the reality they live now, but someone making it attainable. I believe a lot of these kids want to do better but they either a) don’t know how b) nobody cares or c) they can’t see past where they’re at currently. An active involvement in the child’s learning and fostering a love for education, in my opinion, can change that.
Yohanna: The problem is parents not raising their children and expecting someone else to do it for them. I currently work in juvenile probation and too many times have I witnessed parents washing their hands of their parental duties and leaving their child’s well being in the hands of the probation officer. The parents are, at times, illiterate and ignorant themselves, but somehow wish for the child to be reformed. It starts with YOU. These kids nowadays have no respect for authority and will “get buck” with the system just because they know it lacks the resources to truly discipline them. If parents in the black community start molding their kids at a young age, instead of waiting until they become of an age where what they say doesn’t make a difference, some of these kids would be better off. All a child needs is one positive example, a person who doesn’t represent the norm. Hence the need for more mentors. (If you don’t mentor, you should. The kids need us.—end of shameless plug.)
Jaclynne: The fact that we don’t patronize black businesses. We need to grow together & stop all the hating. Let’s build each other up again.
Renee: Sell his entire current collection of clothing. He looks a hot mess trying to dress like he is a teeny bopper. After than, go down to Walmart and apply to be a door greeter. I’m sure he will bring customers in due to his notoriety. That would mean more profit for Walmart and more money for him to provide for his children.
Garfield: He can kill himself and leave the kids in his will. I’m joking…to an extent. Seriously, I care nothing for Flavor Flav. Any man who is on TV that much, and ain’t even paying his damn child support, I have no words for. This is assuming he’s getting paid for all this face time. I won’t judge for there is a chance that he has extenuating circumstances that don’t allow him to pay, but he should’ve thought about that before he had all these kids. I read somewhere he wanted to have 10 of them…Well…that’s fine, but them kids cost money son. Can’t blame Uncle Sam for this one #kanyeshrug
Yohanna: That n***a needs a real job. Does he even have a GED? McDonalds and Panera are hiring…Honestly, We’ve seen enough of his buffoonery. That shit is not funny and I never found any humor in the foolywangness he presents on a national television scope. A check is a check though. I’m all out of ideas for him. His time in the spotlight was more prolific when he was smoking crack and doing the jig with Public Enemy. Next…
Jaclynne: Go to school. Education is a beautiful thing… (And maybe put his face on a condom box… Can we say endorsement?)
Renee: I don’t believe in attacking someone’s family just for the sake of trying to poke fun at or belittle the person in question. I think that it is tactless and disrespectful. Sure Sarah Palin is flighty and talks before she thinks. I get that. But why bring her children into the picture? Attack the person and their personal opinions. Family is off limits—unless they put themselves in the spotlight.
Garfield: I’m biased, I think Sarah Palin is a complete idiot. I hate John McCain more, because he gave her that first taste, and now she won’t go away. So in that respect, I hope she gets made fun of enough to jump off the Empire State building in 5 oclock traffic during the Macy’s Day Parade.
All that aside, I think you have to draw the line when it comes to family. Adults they’re old enough to be able to take the joke and hell, if they’re not, they’re not going to die from hurt feelings. Family is different. You can ask any regular person, I can give you the dozens (crack on you for the non old school folk) until I’m blue in the face, and everything is cool. Let me say something about your mother who’s retarded, or your kid, and then people want to fight. Public figures are fair targets for the most part, but I think when you start talking about the kids, you’re pushing the line.
Yohanna: People are just too damn sensitive about anything anymore. It’s a comedy. Ok, it was a little wrong to crack on people with disabilities on tv, but don’t comics do it in their standup routines often? No harm is meant. Everybody is always screaming about free country, free speech, “my rights are solidified in the goddamn Bill of Rights!” But let someone speak about the wrong thing and it’s the most talked about item on MSNBC…they were so wrong. Sarah Palin was probably somewhere secretly laughing herself.
Jaclynne: Ok.. We’re giving Sarah too much attention. You got an unwed teen mom & one w/ down syndrome. Welcome to every day America. She doesn’t really relate… If she did she wouldn’t keep making all these crazy public outcries. Second if she saddown somewhere & thought about it she’d realize she wouldn’t get picked on if she could think. (See what I did there)
Renee: I totally agree with Jay-Z’s point of view. “We Are the World” was such a classic piece full of love and a willingness to help others who have fallen. On some level I feel like Richie and Jones weren’t satisfied with the original and only used the Haiti earthquake as a reason to remake it. I don’t think we should look to Jay-Z as the “be all, end all” of saviors for organizing black celebrities. I would have loved for all of the black celebs regardless of profession to get on planes and spend a week helping the people of Haiti. That would have been dope.
Garfield: I didn’t hear the song. I heard it was horrible. Didn’t Jay already do a song with Beyonce and some other folk though? I don’t think you can remake a We Are The World type song…especially not with Wayne and T-Pain autotuning their lives away on it. I’m sure Jay looked at the lineup and used his sense to be like “this is wack, I don’t want to be associated with this.”
Yohanna: I wholeheartedly agree with Jay. He didn’t want to put his name on something that reflected anything other than a great project. Wyclef killed my spirit sounding more like Billy Goat Gruff and the rappers? My, my…the rappers. Were Bono or Sting not available? Furthermore, I thought autotune was DOA? They couldn’t have honestly believed that remix was hot. Womp.
Jaclynne: Maybe Jay was on to something. We should leave MJ’s legacy alone & make our owns. Legends don’t make themselves legendary on anothers back.
Renee: Bring George W. Bush up on federal charges for effing up the economy. Then chill out on the South Lawn sipping a margarita with my close girlfriends discussing ways to improve the economy. Sometimes it’s the common folk, and not politicians who have the best answers to solving things.
Garfield: I’m legalizing weed. I don’t smoke it, but I know a lot of people back home that sell it, and the sentences they get for that are out of control. It’s just weed.
I’m canceling Mondays as an official workday, and from tomorrow on it will be holiday. Nobody on the planet wants to go to work on a Monday. I’ll be a hero.
I’d also make college free, while drastically reducing the price of graduate schools, while offering tuition reimbursements, relief, and deferments for everything. The cost of college and professional schools is ridiculous, and the toll it takes on your quality of life if you have to take out loans is even MORE ridiculous.
Yohanna: I’d grow a backbone and stand up for some of my own initiatives and try to, for once, stop being like the used car salesman…telling everybody want they want to hear, then doing something different.
Jaclynne: Give everyone a week off & a bailout check like the banks got.
That wraps up this week’s roundtable. Let us know what YOU think about these topics in the comment section. If you’re interested in being on a future Fresh Roundtable, email info@thefreshxpress.com.








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What's interesting is that the voice actor who made that joke about Palin ACTUALLY has down syndrome. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/02/…
I was gonna post this. And she was basically like “my family taught me how to have a sense of humor”
“You want my spot Flash?!??!”
I’m not from Jacksonville =( Ft. Lauderdale…and if we’re using current places, I’m in North Carolina…Either way, it was a pleasure to be a part of this round table, I’ll come back with some extra comments.
I'm sorry… they asked me… and naturally I just assumed you were from Jacksonville. LOL!
I know your from Panama City…you're on probation as my big sister. SMH.
Damn.
Yes, for the Mondays off, but knowing me I would not want to go back to work on Tuesday.
I feel Jaclynne on the giving everyone a week off & a bailout … that'd be quite amazing!